Replaced header gaskets, exhaust nuts will not stay tight!?!
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Thanks tim,
Will look into this. I assumed header were torqued up pretty tight to make a good seal. Apparently not!
I'm guessing its so you don't crack the pipes or something?
9ft lbs... Will see how low my wrench goes, although I won't be able to fit it in there, just something to compare tightness to!
Will look into this. I assumed header were torqued up pretty tight to make a good seal. Apparently not!
I'm guessing its so you don't crack the pipes or something?
9ft lbs... Will see how low my wrench goes, although I won't be able to fit it in there, just something to compare tightness to!
I think the pressure is set around 9ft lbs as that's the listed torque
for those sized nuts and expect the thread may strip if you over tighten them.
I found this site which lists 8mm metric around 10.5 ft lbs and it appears to be the grade of metal used how its based - Have a look here
Standard Application Torque Recommendations
I'd expect its the stud thread that would be the weakest point
Anyone feel free correct me if I am wrong
Last edited by Black'n'Yellow; 07-26-2013 at 02:36 PM. Reason: extra text
#13
Just found this page which explains torque and settings and a interesting read :
Torque, and Torque Wrenches
Torque, and Torque Wrenches
#14
what i ended up doing is drill a 1/16 or 1/8 hole in the very end of the header nuts then cut short pieces (4 inch) of clothes hanger wire (thicker, not thin, flimsy hanger wire) and run the wire through the holes in each nut. for the two out side nuts i just cut a extra long piece of wire and secure it around the header tube itself with a sort of hook and loop set up on the wire ends so it wont move around. for the six inside nuts i used one piece of wire and ran it through both nuts and slightly bent the ends with my pliars so its impossible for the wires move around to back out of the hole in the nut. cheap way to lock header bolts but not ghetto at all. i used pliers to manipulate the wires where i wanted them to be, very solid for sure. you can even snug the nut after all that with a box end wrench for extra snuggness. you will never have to worry about them backing off again because when one tries to back out the wire being through the other nut keeps it from moving. if that makes sense
Last edited by cBrentb; 07-29-2013 at 12:44 PM.
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what i ended up doing is drill a 1/16 or 1/8 hole in the very end of the header nuts then cut short pieces (4 inch) of clothes hanger wire (thicker, not thin, flimsy hanger wire) and run the wire through the holes in each nut. for the two out side nuts i just cut a extra long piece of wire and secure it around the header tube itself with a sort of hook and loop set up on the wire ends so it wont move around. for the six inside nuts i used one piece of wire and ran it through both nuts and slightly bent the ends with my pliars so its impossible for the wires move around to back out of the hole in the nut. cheap way to lock header bolts but not ghetto at all. i used pliers to manipulate the wires where i wanted them to be, very solid for sure. you can even snug the nut after all that with a box end wrench for extra snuggness. you will never have to worry about them backing off again because when one tries to back out the wire being through the other nut keeps it from moving. if that makes sense
This would make a good "Sticky" or "How to do" for us less experienced
to learn from.
Could you post a picture of what it looks like on your bike please?
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For those still trying to fit a tqrque wrench in - you can use another very acurate method.
You need to achieve 9ft - lbs
That is 9lbs of weight at the end of a 1ft wrench
OR
18lbs of weight at the end of a 6" wrench.
I have used a 6" wrench on the nuts and a fishing balance scale to apply the 18lbs force.
Works every time in tight spaces.
You need to achieve 9ft - lbs
That is 9lbs of weight at the end of a 1ft wrench
OR
18lbs of weight at the end of a 6" wrench.
I have used a 6" wrench on the nuts and a fishing balance scale to apply the 18lbs force.
Works every time in tight spaces.
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I expect the right sized split pin would work too in place of the coat hanger wire.
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