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Old 05-28-2006 | 09:33 AM
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How can I tell if I am burning my clutch or if I am grinding my gears? Sometimes when I'm in aggressive mode, I try to upshift and I run the clutch and the gas at the same time and shift. Is this called one of those 2 very expensive mistakes to make? Also sometimes when I am shifting up from first, it goes to neutral and I'm sitting there in the middle of the intersection un-intentionally reving my engine around 5/6k rpm. I am trying to learn to match the shifting up and down. But in this process of learning I want to know if I am slowly flucking my bike up?
 
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Old 05-28-2006 | 10:58 AM
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I make sure I come off the gas when changing gears, then before I let the clutch back out I get the throttle to where I want it then let the clutch out, that way the bike finds the gears easily and doesn't wear the gears as much. Doing what you do in 'agressive mode' wears the gears more. The revving in neutral doesn't really do much besides making you look silly, but always make sure you give it a firm gear change to go through neutral to 2nd. I used to be quite light on my change through 1st to 2nd and used to find the same problem as you with neutral on the odd occasion.
 
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Old 05-28-2006 | 11:28 PM
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I really think you need to learn to make the perfect shifts all the time, before getting into what you call aggressive mode. You should always be letting off the throttle when engaging the clutch. Pro racers don't, but they use special "quick shifters" which allow them to make clutchless shifts at full throttle. I don't think your clutch or gears are in any danger, it's your motor I worry about with those high un-necessary revs.
 
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Old 06-02-2006 | 01:44 AM
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So say I'm around 1500 - 2000 RPM and I am riding along, and I pull the clutch from that RPM position, does that wear my clutch or engine out? Also sometimes I can feel the clutch not engaging like it should be, it only happened once though, but it was relatively noticeable. I was at a light, I pull the clutch and shift into first and the bike lurks forward and dies. Also when I am say going downhill and I want to coast, so I put it down into nuetral, and then I want to get back to second I try just to shift up to second, and I hear a grinding noise and it doesn't want to go up to second. Do I have to go thru 1st to get to second or can I just shift up to second automatically? I have done this serveral times is the grinding sound bad for the bike or transmission?
 
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Old 06-02-2006 | 02:32 PM
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So say I'm around 1500 - 2000 RPM and I am riding along, and I pull the clutch from that RPM position, does that wear my clutch or engine out?
No, that is normal riding! Just dont ride the clutch (coast with it pulled in) for too long as that can wear it out.

Also sometimes I can feel the clutch not engaging like it should be, it only happened once though, but it was relatively noticeable. I was at a light, I pull the clutch and shift into first and the bike lurks forward and dies.
Hopefully that will not become a normal thing, because it def sounds like the clutch just didnt work in that instance. My guess, though, is that maybe your clutch has a late grab and you just didnt pull it in all the way, even though you thought you did.

Also when I am say going downhill and I want to coast, so I put it down into nuetral, and then I want to get back to second I try just to shift up to second, and I hear a grinding noise and it doesn't want to go up to second. Do I have to go thru 1st to get to second or can I just shift up to second automatically? I have done this serveral times is the grinding sound bad for the bike or transmission?
There shouldnt be a difference, so i dont know what that grinding is. I dont ride like that at all, though, going into N to coast. I really dont think you are saving yourself that much gas, so you may as well just dont do it if it feels weird.
 
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Old 06-15-2006 | 12:54 AM
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i often have the same problem when shifting first to second, if i hit neutral then try to shift to second it also makes that grinding noise and doesnt want to shift, i have found that if you continue to hold the clutch in rev the RPMs up alittle as they begin to drop try shifting into second again, it will shift as smooth as normal. In a way its sort of like powershifting however also using the clutch.
 
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Old 06-15-2006 | 04:27 PM
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Thats for your response tech, I will try that asap! Thanks brother.
 
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