Gearing an F2
#1
Gearing an F2
This is a post on my .02 of gearing Your F2 andsome things to think about before gearing.
The point of gearing is to increase the performance of the bike but for what. Top speed? 1/8th mile? 1/4 mile? Track bike?
One thing to remember is no matter what sprockets You put in, the spacing of the gears does NOT change. Only the mph of the gears change. So if I have an F2 thatis geared to do 10k rpms at 100mph in 3rd, and an F2 thatis geared to do 10k rpms at 100mph in 4th,both bikes will pull the same. In other words gearing does not increase H.P.Just changes the mph each gear produces its H.P.
Dropping one tooth in the front is going to bring the biggest gain. Remember when You add teeth to the rear it is a bigger sprocket, that adds moreunsprung mass to Your rear tire. So You will gain excelleration by the gearing but You will loose a small amount ofhorsepower with a bigger rear sprocket about1/2 h.p.Not alot but for some people that matters.
Hear are some specs on the gearing for an F2.
Primary Drive gearing 1.863
Sprocket drive 43/15 = 2.87
1.863x2.87= Total drive gearing 5.34:1
Gears....
1st 3.14
2nd 2.06
3rd 1.59
4th 1.37
5th1.20
6th1.09
Factory tire is 24"in diamiter.
43/15 = 2.87 x 1.863 Final gearing 5.34
42/14 = 3.00 x 1.863 Final gearing 5.59
43/14 = 3.07 x 1.863 Final gearing 5.71
45/14 = 3.21 x 1.863Final gearing5.98
Lets say You want toset the bike up for the 1/4. There are three main things You should look at.1st gear (take off), how many shifts (fewer is better), and rpms at the finish line (peak H.P.at finish).
example:
Your F2 does 117mph at the finish linein the 1/4 mile. With the stock gearing 3rd gear tops at 109mph and 4th gear tops out at 127mph. So I want to change the gearing so 4th gear tops out at a little over 117mph.
To do that the ideal gearing would be 5.71, that would put You at 118mph in 4th gear. If I go to a 5.98 setting 4th tops out at 113mph forcing me to shift to 5thjust before the finish line.
Please if You have something to add please do, also I hope this helps.
Hear is a link I use to help calculategearing and m.p.h.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/calcmph.php
The point of gearing is to increase the performance of the bike but for what. Top speed? 1/8th mile? 1/4 mile? Track bike?
One thing to remember is no matter what sprockets You put in, the spacing of the gears does NOT change. Only the mph of the gears change. So if I have an F2 thatis geared to do 10k rpms at 100mph in 3rd, and an F2 thatis geared to do 10k rpms at 100mph in 4th,both bikes will pull the same. In other words gearing does not increase H.P.Just changes the mph each gear produces its H.P.
Dropping one tooth in the front is going to bring the biggest gain. Remember when You add teeth to the rear it is a bigger sprocket, that adds moreunsprung mass to Your rear tire. So You will gain excelleration by the gearing but You will loose a small amount ofhorsepower with a bigger rear sprocket about1/2 h.p.Not alot but for some people that matters.
Hear are some specs on the gearing for an F2.
Primary Drive gearing 1.863
Sprocket drive 43/15 = 2.87
1.863x2.87= Total drive gearing 5.34:1
Gears....
1st 3.14
2nd 2.06
3rd 1.59
4th 1.37
5th1.20
6th1.09
Factory tire is 24"in diamiter.
43/15 = 2.87 x 1.863 Final gearing 5.34
42/14 = 3.00 x 1.863 Final gearing 5.59
43/14 = 3.07 x 1.863 Final gearing 5.71
45/14 = 3.21 x 1.863Final gearing5.98
Lets say You want toset the bike up for the 1/4. There are three main things You should look at.1st gear (take off), how many shifts (fewer is better), and rpms at the finish line (peak H.P.at finish).
example:
Your F2 does 117mph at the finish linein the 1/4 mile. With the stock gearing 3rd gear tops at 109mph and 4th gear tops out at 127mph. So I want to change the gearing so 4th gear tops out at a little over 117mph.
To do that the ideal gearing would be 5.71, that would put You at 118mph in 4th gear. If I go to a 5.98 setting 4th tops out at 113mph forcing me to shift to 5thjust before the finish line.
Please if You have something to add please do, also I hope this helps.
Hear is a link I use to help calculategearing and m.p.h.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/calcmph.php
#5
RE: Gearing an F2
If You gear one down in the front You will change Your overall gearing of first gear from 16.76 to 17.92. Think of it this way, in the stock setting 20 mph You are at 4,800rpms. Thats about 30rwhp. If You go down 1 on the front at 20 mph You will be at 5,200rpmsthats about 33rwhp.So Your putting down more H.P. sooner.
#6
RE: Gearing an F2
Gearing, as you saidis a trade offbetween top speed and torque. While measured HP at the ground/wheel is unaffected by gearing, torque is affected.
The weight of adding 2 or even 4teeth to the rear sprocket is insignificant in regards to both suspension and HP. Besides, when most people gear up in the rear, they switch to aluminum. The theory is accurate, but the affects are imperceptible.
Smaller front sprockets are a source of increased friction and wear.....a smaller front sprocket puts a greater amount of tension in the chain, and also articulates it more...both increase wear.
The weight of adding 2 or even 4teeth to the rear sprocket is insignificant in regards to both suspension and HP. Besides, when most people gear up in the rear, they switch to aluminum. The theory is accurate, but the affects are imperceptible.
Smaller front sprockets are a source of increased friction and wear.....a smaller front sprocket puts a greater amount of tension in the chain, and also articulates it more...both increase wear.
#8
#9
RE: Gearing an F2
Nice post...
A bigger sprocket on the rear will make it easier to wheelie...gives more "torque"...
But...I actually like the stock gearing except for 1st gear on my F2, which I believe to be way too short.
Once you hit 30 mph.....time to shift...mostly due to that legendary buzzyness that CBR's have at
certain rpm's, etc (Like the fairing fuse box lid on the riht...I have put foam around the edges...still
buzzes...only one screw they used to put that on there...which was dumb on Honda's part...
I would like 1st gear a bit longer...at least to where it could pull to 50...without having to rev the
crap out of it.
When I start doing track days...I may gear my bike a bit different for that....but for now..it's good.
A bigger sprocket on the rear will make it easier to wheelie...gives more "torque"...
But...I actually like the stock gearing except for 1st gear on my F2, which I believe to be way too short.
Once you hit 30 mph.....time to shift...mostly due to that legendary buzzyness that CBR's have at
certain rpm's, etc (Like the fairing fuse box lid on the riht...I have put foam around the edges...still
buzzes...only one screw they used to put that on there...which was dumb on Honda's part...
I would like 1st gear a bit longer...at least to where it could pull to 50...without having to rev the
crap out of it.
When I start doing track days...I may gear my bike a bit different for that....but for now..it's good.
#10