180 tire + rear fender
would that work?
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RE: 180 tire + rear fender
No.
Biggest you should go is 170, but then again, you shouldn't if you have an f2 because the rim is only 4.5 inches which a 160 is suitable. |
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I'm running a 190 with the stock wheel and hugger and it works great! [8D]
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Hey rick are you reall running a 190?? That cannot be a f2 wheel!! LOL can it?? If so how did you do it!?
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ORIGINAL: Rickracer I'm running a 190 with the stock wheel and hugger and it works great! [8D] |
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If you guys put wider tires on a 4.5 inch rim, it doesn't increase the contact patch. It will look rounder and not as flat as you guys would expect. And if you are doing that, good luck.
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ORIGINAL: Rickracer I'm running a 190 with the stock wheel and hugger and it works great! [8D] a 180 on a f3 wheel looks and rides fine heres mine http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...9/P7270399.jpg |
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Ill take a pic and post it tomorrow, my camera is at work and Im off today, [sm=happy046.gif][sm=icon_cheers.gif] [sm=shades.gif]
As far as I know, its a stock 93 F2 wheel, and it had a 170 Metzler on it that would spin just cracking the throttle in first and 2nd.I was planning on going up to a Shingko 180, but when I went to my favorite bike shop for a tire, he only had 190s, and thought it would fit, so we put it on, low and behold, it does. My hugger was a little warped anyway, so I had to make some make some wooden wedges and stick em between the tire and the hugger in a few spots, and then warm it up with a heat gun just a little, let it cool and now it fits like a glove, better than it did when I got it with a 170 on it. [sm=shades.gif] |
RE: 180 tire + rear fender
I'll stick with my 160
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Well thats whats up! Can you post the exact mesaurements of your tire Rick??!
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ORIGINAL: Rickracer I'm running a 190 with the stock wheel and hugger and it works great! [8D] on a stock 4.5" rim, a 190 would have to be pinched in the rim making it an unstable choice width wise. you'd need to go at least to a 5.5" rim to safely do this. you'll notice it in hard cornering more than straights. |
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All I know is they are getting me this close to 1.760' times, so far my best is 1.81, and I've picked up 4 more MPH (rejetting the carbs) in the 1/4 in my 2 runs since the best short time. Next time I go the the track, it will be an 1/8 mile that I can get maybe 10 or 15 runs so I can get the launch down pat, my home track is a 1/4 mile track that's very busy, and you generally only get 4 or 5 runs if you're lucky on a Wednesday or Friday night session. [8D]
I don't do a lot of twisty riding, at least not yet, mostly just daily driving and trips to the track. [8D] |
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Ok, here we go... youll notice the hugger is still a bit warped, but has plenty of clearance to the tire....
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RE: 180 tire + rear fender , 56k beware...
the profile on that is horrible, looks like a car tire
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Hooks like a car tire too. Granted, it would be better on a wider wheel, but it serves my purposes very well. [8D]
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it doesnt look bad... yea i am a strait liner too... so it hooks pretty good?
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Im only .002 from a 1.7 60 foot, and Ive only had about 14 runs so far, in 3 trips to the track, first 5 were on the old Metzler 170 that I could break loose just cracking the throttle. Now if I leave at less than 8 grand and dont slip the clutch just right I wheelie and/or bog the motor.With the Shingko 190, mybest time is a 11.79, best mph is 116, and best short time is a 1.81. I just need to see if I can get them all together or better in a single run. Next time I go to the track, (maybe this Thursday), I'm going to an 1/8th mile track where I can get maybe 15 runs in in one evening, I should be launching better by then. I just lowered it about an inch on both ends too, for total of about 2 up front and 1 or 1.5 in the rear. and plan to get a strap for the front. [8D] My buddy with a stretched and fairly modded Gizzer 750 keeps buggin me to stretch my swingarm too, but I like the stealth approach a lot better, plus, my bike handles a lot better than his.[8D]
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<3 I want
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BTW, like with most big fat car tires, I tend to run the pressure a little lower than most riders, about 28 psi, track and street. If I had my druthers, I druther have a wider wheel too, but that will come in time. [8D]
For some reason, I cant get two of the pics to display in the other post, so here they are: |
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wow, my first thought was how dangerous a 190 would be throwing off the dynamics of the bike...but I ride the twisties. Seems to make sense for the strip though.
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i have that exact same shinko 005...and it's a 180 also i haven't had any problems
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Back in the early 70s, when I got my first "street" bike, a Yamaha 125 AS2C 2 stroke twin, I did the same thing, bought the biggest Nangkang (Dunlop K81 copy but softer) that would fit, put a Barnett "racing" clutch kit in it and rode the hell out of it. Back then,I would give much bigger bikes a fit stop light to stoplight, but any more than an 1/8 mile they would go on by. Those were the days..... that kinda stuff these days though, will get you killed, or in jail. [8D]
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Rick, you're really dating yourself...some of us were not alive in the early seventies! But bikes have come a long way since then and you may get to triple digits stoplight to stoplight now.
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ORIGINAL: edwardtn ...bikes have come a long way since then and you may get to triple digits stoplight to stoplight now. and YEP, Im one of those old pharts, [8D] |
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25 here.....strait liner!!
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Made my best pass ever last night, 7.59@99.59 mph w/1.759 60' time. Even beat a BUSA, although Im sure it was driver error. None of those guys (all Busas) would line up with me again though, one mistake and they were mine. Good thing for me it was an 1/8 mile track, they would have killed me in the 1/4.
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I wonder how the weight/hp ratios compare?
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That's awesome. Seems conceivable an F2 may have a slight advantage in 1/8th, being lighter. I would think they would be catching up quick at the finish though. Of course it prolly has alot to do with rider...and gearing.
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wow nice times how did it hook that night?? This is what i ran a while back with my last bike 2001 GSXR 600... geared, nine inch Yana shekiextentions, race upper front fairing,Murrey racing GP pipe,couple of other small mods and my light asson itat135lb lol w/ a slightbog at the line... (if you look at the last pic in the far back in the garage, the bike with out the front on it is my cousins old 99 F4.. lol)
@ Kenadale -.072 1.917 4.903 77.81 7.328 99.38 http://a915.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...e36d95cffa.jpg http://a809.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...7ee6b60f78.jpg http://a372.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...b2718015ab.jpg |
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I pretty much killed em all off the line up to mayby the 330 or 440 footmark, then theyd blow by @ over 120 or 130 mph. I was launching at about 7000 to 9000, carrying the front wheel through first about 3" most of the time, shifting right on 13,500, and bouncing up again in 2nd.It was definitely hooking hard. Sometimes I didnt even do a burnout, just a couple dry hops, VHT is a WONDERFUL thing. I cant wait to see how hard I can leave withthe frontstrapped down. Right now, Im just lowered about 1.5 in the rear, and maybe 1 3/4 up front.
BTW, good looking bike, n9ne_inches_later |
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Actually, regardless of the TIRE'S width, unless you go up to some INSANE size, it'll fit; only stopper is the hugger.
I've got a 180 PR5 on my F2, and am going to go up to a Diablo 190. Bear in mind that the hugger's going to be your problem, not the width... The tire won't be any wider than the clearance of the oem. from the 160 wheel. The part that'll be 'bigger' will be the profile (ignore the profile number on the tire, itself. That's GOING to change.) Take a strip of paper and hold it between your thumb and forefinger, width-wise. As you bring you fingers together, the paper bulges higher. If the width is set (i.e. an oem 160 wheel) the HEIGHT will change. I can say this, though from going up from the 160 to the 180: The bike FEELS more stout, more substantial and more stable all over. Both straight-away, and on curves... And the sh!t lloks HAWT! [8D] If you want to go up, the only way that you're going to do it - completely hassle free - is to ditch the rear hugger. I'm not running one (nor a rear fender), so that's not an issue with me. I have intil the dogbones, practically. I'll post a couple of pics, when I getta chance, and will give explanations, if need be. |
RE: 180 tire + rear fender , 56k beware...
I have a 190/55/17 on my rear..
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I like both the look and the substantial stoutness (riding dynamics) of the 180... I think when this one goes I'm going to bump to the 190. I set mine on, and that night had people commenting on how much more aggressive it looks. [8D]
Since I work/ run a pool hall, overnight, in Jacksonville, I park right out front, on the street. Alot of people see it as they drive by, and like the bigger look... It's kind of like a modern bike (w/ a 190 oem) going up to a 220.... How's the 190 handle? Not like it's going to matter to *ME.* I don't do too much knee-dragging, these days, but I know the 180 PR5 likes the curves. :D |
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Will 190/50 ZR 17 fit?
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If the hugger touches, you can do what I did, since mine was warped as all get out anyway: I took some paint stick pieces andwedged them in where ever there was too little clearance, then heated up each spot gently with a heat gun, now it fits like a glove. [8D]
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Will 190/50 ZR 17 fit?
Yes. It's not a clearence with anything but the hugger. Like RIck said: "If the hugger touches, you can do what I did, since mine was warped as all get out anyway: I took some paint stick pieces andwedged them in where ever there was too little clearance, then heated up each spot gently with a heat gun, now it fits like a glove." |
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