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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Ok so I've searched and found some stuff that leads me to believe that I have carb issues. But couldn't find my exact issue.

When I first got this bike a week ago I didnt have any issues with it.
The other day I was practicing the Motorcycle safety course at the DMV for my license when I stalled it hard while doing the course. Ever since then the idle was off and would die out at stop lights and such. So I found out about the idle adjuster and used that to help fix the issue. However when I go on rides now, I seem to constantly have to adjust the idle every couple miles as it seems to be off and It'll start to idle high anywhere between 2K and 4K. So as I was riding today and was playing with the idle adjustment I started to realize some hesitation when I got on the throttle hard from a stop. At first I thought the clutch was slipping when I gave it power. (I might still have that problem anyways) But after riding for a while more I realized that once I reach about 5K or so while accelerating, it bogs out and will barely creep over 6k. This only happens while in gear but the bike will free rev all the way to 11k with no issues.

If anyone knows anything about these issues it would greatly help before I take it to the shop. I didn't know if the hard stall might have jolted something which made it run weird after that.

Thanks for all the help and I'm sorry if I just didn't look hard enough through the forum.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Definetly a fuel issue. Clean your carbs and see if that sorts it out.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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sounds to me like your carbs are out of sync. ive got a 95 f3 and i had a similar issue. had a buddy take the bike to mmi(good thing abotu living in arizona) he threw a vacuum gauge on the carbs, solved my problems. now my baby hauls ***
 
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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Carb sync will only cause driveability issues, it will not cause your bike to die.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Ok so after playin with the idle adjustment its been doing alot better with idling.. but what tds94probe said about driveability really turned on a lightbulb for me... I've heard that there are different jets for rpm ranges and if im anywhere up to about 4500 or so it will sometimes sputter and it made me think the clutch is goin bad..but now im wonderin if its just that first set of jets because it will run fine from 5k+ but sometimes runs weird while cruising slower...any tips or ideas other than cleaning and sync?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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Your needle jet controls from approx 5k rpm to 8k rpm. However, it controls that on the presumption that your main jet (7k to Redline) is flowing correctly, if there is a blockage in your main jet, it will not allow the needle jet to work properly. Clean your carbs, these bikes are notorious for dirty carbs and you will need to clean them about every spring. Especially if you let them sit over the winter.

If youre 100% opposed to cleaning the carbs, put a can of seafoam into the fuel tank. on your next fillup. However, I will stress that this will only help slightly and will certinaly not cure the problem.

Something else you can try is putting the choke on slightly and see what happens.
 

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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 03:58 PM
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Ok thanks and i will definitely try the seafoam. And its not that im opposed to cleaning the carbs. Im actually 100% for it. But my wallet is kinda low at the moment unless that's something that I could litterally do at home. Im pretty mechanically inclined...but I've just never messed with carbs, especially ones like these. So im not 100% sure what im doing with them.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Its very simple really, youll need a long phillips screwdriver, a pair of pliers, and some various size sockets. Theres a carb cleaning how to on here. It will probably take you 3-4 hours (it being your first time). Once you do it a few times, you could easily have them out, cleaned and re-installed in a half hour to 45 minutes. (Comes in very handy if you ever buy a jet kit as you have to install and remove your carbs about 10 - 15 times to tune it properly)
 
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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I will second the suggestion to take the carbs off and clean them - I no longer own my 89 Hurricane, but I got pretty good at taking all the plastics off, removing the gas tank, and getting the carbs off in short order... you will have no problems I am sure. Once you read over all the information online about how to disassemble the carbs, it is really just a matter of soaking, cleaning and blowing air through all the small passageways - some folks suggest using a guitar string or fine gauge wire to help push out any crud in the jets....you can encounter a distorted or twisted tab on a float, or come across pilot screws that are not set properly - but for the most part, with the bowls off you can tighten in the pilot screws to where they are snug and turn them all out about 2 to 2.5 turns and have a decent starting point for your idle, then just clean and reassemble. During the time that I owned the older 600 cc bikes, I have had much better results with stock carb parts and have removed an aftermarket jet kit and ended up with better throttle response and no dead spots like you describe in the 4k to 5K range. Good luck!
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 05:30 AM
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Hey guys. Maybe it's the same issue for me. I went to work and had the bike parked outside all day yesterday. It starter pouring and on my way back home(Atleast trying to get home) I noticed that I started losing power. It would sputter at around 4-5k and from there slowly die out on the road. It starts up if I let it sit for a few but then the same problem happens after a couple of kliks on the road. Weird exhaust noise too. Hopefully someone can lend a thought. Cheers fellas.
 
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