Power Commander Myth
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RE: Power Commander Myth
You still would not "have to". Basiclly any mod you make that will change the air / fuel intake or output can make your bike run a bit off so to speak. So the pc3 if dyno tuned will help you get your air / fuel back to optimum performance. An air filter and slip on is not changing the characteristcs all that much, but you could still get it dialed in better with a pc3. Now the full exhaust is going to flow more then a slip on, so without the pc3 your a/f is gonna be a lil more off still. So where you draw the line on needing one is up to you really, and how much money you want to spend.
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RE: Power Commander Myth
I just added my 2 bros slip on yesterday (07 600rr). In talking with the mechanics at honda, they said that from 07 and on a PC3 helps in the power dept. but is not a need.
Why?
Before last year, the fuel valve was not adjusted according to the read out from the ECU- starting last year the valve is controlled by the ECU thus adjusting (slightly) to the amount of air in, fuel mixture and exhaust out. Thus a slip on will not make the motors run super lean (like 06 and prior). A PC3 WILL enhance this and give you more power-
I will add mine over the summer with a BMC and some new jet settings...for now...shes great!
Good luck
Why?
Before last year, the fuel valve was not adjusted according to the read out from the ECU- starting last year the valve is controlled by the ECU thus adjusting (slightly) to the amount of air in, fuel mixture and exhaust out. Thus a slip on will not make the motors run super lean (like 06 and prior). A PC3 WILL enhance this and give you more power-
I will add mine over the summer with a BMC and some new jet settings...for now...shes great!
Good luck
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RE: Power Commander Myth
ORIGINAL: egdcbr600rr
Before last year, the fuel valve was not adjusted according to the read out from the ECU- starting last year the valve is controlled by the ECU thus adjusting (slightly) to the amount of air in, fuel mixture and exhaust out. Thus a slip on will not make the motors run super lean (like 06 and prior). A PC3 WILL enhance this and give you more power-
I will add mine over the summer with a BMC and some new jet settings...for now...shes great!
Good luck
Before last year, the fuel valve was not adjusted according to the read out from the ECU- starting last year the valve is controlled by the ECU thus adjusting (slightly) to the amount of air in, fuel mixture and exhaust out. Thus a slip on will not make the motors run super lean (like 06 and prior). A PC3 WILL enhance this and give you more power-
I will add mine over the summer with a BMC and some new jet settings...for now...shes great!
Good luck
#7
RE: Power Commander Myth
I highly doubt they talk out their asses- close friends who are certified tech's through Honda on full motor, tranny and service standards set by Honda...
Consider it the fact that they must of just been talking about the 600's (considering thats what we were talking about at that time). It was *I* who assumed that 600 technology would carry over to the 1000.
Consider it the fact that they must of just been talking about the 600's (considering thats what we were talking about at that time). It was *I* who assumed that 600 technology would carry over to the 1000.
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RE: Power Commander Myth
ORIGINAL: TK954RR
I am no bike genius by any means, but (excluding cali bikes) as far as i know none of these bikes have 02 sensors. So how exactly is the ecu monitoring the a/f ratio ? ? OH and what jets are you changing on a FI bike ?
I am no bike genius by any means, but (excluding cali bikes) as far as i know none of these bikes have 02 sensors. So how exactly is the ecu monitoring the a/f ratio ? ? OH and what jets are you changing on a FI bike ?
When I made my PCIII map I used an onboard NGK Powerdex wideband system to take AFR measurements.