600RR vs. 1000RR
 

I'm looking at purchasing my first bike. I don't have alot of experience riding. I ridden many harleys, rode 600 and 1000 CBR's, 600 Yamaha, etc. but never owned one. In other words, not alot of time in the seat. I've narrowed it down to the 600 and 1000. Of course, I like the looks of the 1000 better. I keep reading that the "beginner" should go with the 600. Why is that? Is there really that much power/ handling difference between the two under 70mph? Is it the temptation to go fast? Is the throttle that much difference that you'll crash because it's "touchy?" I'm not a crazy driver/ rider. I have total respect for powerful vehicles. I've owned/ driven many sports cars.....which may not be a comparison. I plan to use the bike to go to work and back. I rode my friends 03 "1000" CBR last night and, YES! It has so much more power that I can EVER USE.....but that is probably the same for 95% of buyers of this kind of bike. I gotta believe that most buyers of these bikes buy for the "wow" factor and attention. I can't imagine going full throttle with these bikes. I rode it to get a feel....i kept it below 50, but i can see someone getting tickets VERY easy with these things. Again, I have to imagine the 600 has to be the same way. Help out a potental buyer.......thanks!

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Honestly, I don't buy in to the "get a 600 for your first bike" mentality. You can kill yourself just as easily on a 250 as you can a 1K. Maturity, wrist control and respect for the machine is whats going to keep you from killing yourself until you build up your riding skill. I had a GSX-750R for my first bike and moved up to a CBR1000RR after 2 years. I never felt as though the 750 was too much bike for me and I don't feel like the CBR is either. It's all a matter of what you feel comfortable with and as I was told "get as much bike as you can afford".

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dont kid yourself that with either bike you will keep your speed under 70. it is just not possible. there will come a time when you pull the throttle all the way back, it is just there calling your name... with the 600 you have to keep it high in the rpms to keep the power going but with the 1000 it has power all over the place. the 1000 is the best choice if the extra cash is not the issue, just learn some wrist restraint.

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+1

I completely agree. I bought my first bike a week ago. The only 2 bikes I have riden was a old 125 yamaha dirt bike when I was 14 and like a regular street bike when I was 16....thats it. I found a 2005 CBR 1000RR for $8300 with less than 2000 on it. I will agree with kylehannigan, even though I was scared of the bike, on my way home I hit 130 on the interstate. Yes, I know stupid, but I did. But I have also seen alot of people thinking that the 600's are beginner bikes because of the way people talk about them to be your first. Hvae been many cases that the bike got the best of them because of this. A few guys that I ride with go down the interstate on the rear tire running 80 and 90 so they are not as "weak" as some make them out to be. What ever your decesion, RESPECT is what depends on what happenes.

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Thanks for the replies, people. I think I'm leaning towards the 1000 the more I think about it. Any other opinions?

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If you plan on traveling to work and back, the 1000 is way more comfy. Not ergo's but as far as not having to keep the thing spinning so high.

The bikes really dont matter bro, its all rider. I use to school 1000s in the canyons on my 05 gixxer 6. keep in mind a 6 is a potential 10 second bike too.

Anyway, I dont agree with starting on the biggest bike possible. I feel you should start small and gather the riding skills that you can only pic up from practice and experience, then move up to a bigger bike.

You will have more fun on a 600 for a while because you will be able to use more of its power confidently. A 1000 on the other hand is deceptively fast, requires alittle more turning effort and requires you to watch the rear tire on hard exits(high side city, LOL).

Honestly, your going to get what you want anyway, this is just my opinion. Just be careful on what ever you choose. You can die on either bike. Just use restraint and have fun bro

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well you said you have prior riding. You should be fine on a 1000. you have the basic skills needed and you will be fine. but like someone else said you can get in trouble realy quick on the 1k. My first bike was a 600 and just like everyone else they thought it was the best thing going ( no disrespect to anyone out there with 600) but there is no replacement for displacement, and once you ride the 1k there will not be any going back. anyone starting with a 600 and moved up knows exaclty what im talking about.





get the 1k suka [:@]

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I just bought the 06 1kRR and couldn't be happier. I was an avid rider when I was younger and am finally back in the saddle. Several people have said it, and I will say it again too; its all about wrist restraint. All of the major manufacturers make bikes that are simply too powerful for the street and for most riders in general. They do this because they know the adrenaline junkies like me will buy them. I had several dealers tell me that the 1krr is better for the street, as the 600 has such a high rpm power band, i rode both, and probably would have been just as happy riding back in forth to work on either. It's all about personal preference, budget, and what you intend to do with the bike. If I were going to spend alot of time at the track, I'd have probably bought the 600, but since I will probably rarely see a track day, I decided that the torque of the 1krr better suit my needs. Which ever bike you get, remember they are both seriously more powerful than you think. Take the time to learn to ride, even take a class or two if you can. Good luck on your decision and hope you get your new scoot soon, I know I am certainly happy I did.

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if ya got the bucks get the 1000. i started out from scratch on a 750 and moved up to a 1000 in 2 yr. just use your head AT ALL TIMES when riding.

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I know I can practice wrist restraint....that won't be a problem. The other downfall of buying a 600 (talking to 1000 owners), would be that I would lose money trading or selling to upgrade to the 1000. That's assuming that I got "comfortable" with the smaller bike and wanted more low end torque....which is what I would prefer anyways. This is just like cars.....no one buys them for the top end....they want the fastest 1/4 mi, best looking, sports car they can afford. The top end is nice to know, but I know I'll never experience it. Is there anyone out there that wishes they had never bought the 1000 and had kept their 600? Is this a "stupid" question?

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can't say that, never owned a 600; sounds to me like you've pretty much decided on the 1kRR...so if you can afford it, buy it....that's what i'd do, actually just did and I am completely satisfied; now you just have to decide on the color; i bought the silver. Originally I wanted the black, but to get the deal, I had to buy a bike on the sales floor and they had silver, red/black, and blue/yellow; they all look sweet, but the silver looked cleaner to me....get the bike you want and you'll be happy!!!

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Honestly, if you go with the 1000rr, you will run the initial risk of being ham fisted. But once you learn to ride the bike (since you said you have prior riding experience) you should be fine.

The 600 is fast as well, but if you commute alot, you may get tired of spinning the gears so high, its pretty buzzy up there. I love 600s and they actually are faster on the track/canyon for the average rider because they allow you to use way more wrist and have alot of fun ringing them out without the same worries you would on a 1000.

I think, in all honesty, the best solution would be to buy a used 600. Keep that till you get at least 5K under your belt with it, then sell it for pretty much what you bought it for and go buy the 1000 at that time.

If you can afford this, It's really the best way to go. You wont lose money if you buy the 600 for a good price and you'll have a better understanding of Street riding to hop onto the 1000. That way when you do get the 1G, you'll be able to have more fun on it.

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I'm sorry but i hate that line, it simply isn't true. The BIGGEST factor with our bikes here is Rider Skill/ability.

Cbr6rr/gsx6r/r6/kawi636 > Katana 750
Gsx750r > honda cb919

I know the Liter bikes can obviously walk on the 6's.

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This what happened to me. Bought a brand spanking Kwak ZX6R 636cc. with 60 km on the clock. 6 weeks later i was back in the shop trading it in for the CBR 1000RR Repsol and never looked back since. I tell you i was also new to biking. IMO the 1000 is actually easier to ride than the 600. 1000 has torque all over the place. So it basically a twist and go bike. The 600 is frantic, you always dancing up and down the gearbox. And acceleration on the 600 is actually faster than the 1000. Until about 100km/h and then the grunt of the 1000 takes over. The 1000 is ok for a newbie. As they will be scared ****less every time they mount and will have respect. So get the 1000. you will never ever regret. I know coz i have done it!!!!

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im 29 years old and started riding when i was 3. i rode constantly (dirtbikes and an old 750 streetbike) till i was 14. i then took a 14 year break from all motor vehicles(except cars) till i hit 28. decided last july i was going to get a new bike and on july 27 2005 bought a 2005 cbr1000rr new from a local dealer. took my license test (on it) 1.5 months later and passed with a 97% (lost 3 points from back tire nicking a cone). my best friend bought a 2005 r6 7 days after i got mine. i rode his bike a couple times (very agressively) and i have to say its a very fun bike to ride. all in all though, get the 1k. you will have no regrets what-so-ever (long as u can afford it) i promise. the 1k is the Total Package, no ifs ands or buts. good luck and happy riding. [sm=shades.gif]

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it appears that it doesn't take very long to get "accustomed/ comfortable" to the 600. i've read it again, the 600 accelerates/ feels about the same as the 1000 when you keep it under 60 mph? though, i've heard that you can feel the difference in torque between the two bikes when you have a passenger.

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i could tell a big difference between the 600 & 1000 while riding with a passenger.

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hey - just remember your in a 1000RR forum section, so your getting opinions from 1K riders. i'm a 600 fan, even tho a 1000 would be awesome to have.

my hear say? well a 600 dry-weight is a bit less then a 1000 even tho you will not even notice it. from what I heard around the block 600's have the handling down compared to 1000's, i mean it just make sense you can push the bike easier compared to a 1000.

( as seen here - http://www.southernhonda.com/new_veh...h2=23735&go=Go)

the aspects of the bike are very similiar but also have alot in different (especially the price difference haha) But behind the specs, 600's have the best acceleration and handling compared to 1000's but the 1000s have the top-end. Well I just found out in Vegas we got "motorcycle renters" here - which is funny, but hey - if you cant understand it verbally, get a bike for the day (if there are maybe rentals by where you live, i never heard of a biker renter tho before intill now haha) - or maybe ask some friends if you can just test drive theirs for a bit..

but ok, the verdict from a 600 fan - if i could, i would get the 1000 haha.. you really dont feel the acceleration difference and if your a big guy (or maybe got some powerful legs) you can make the handling... go to the dealership, sit on the bikes - ask tons of questions, figure what is comfortable - and in the end, if you get the 1000RR and you dont like it - you can sell it for almost the same amount you bought it from (as long as you didnt get ripped from the dealership) and then get a new 600RR. you will know if it doesn't feel right tho.

Good luck with the new bike (and watch out for the sharks. AKA salesman)

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Get the 1000RR simply because you can buy one for $8983 plus tax from Southern Honda. Damn, how do they do that?

I also have to say I own both a 2005 600RR and a 2006 1000RR and my 06 1000RR handles A LOT BETTER, WORLDS BETTER, LIKE NIGHT AND DAY BETTER, (did I say better?) then my 600RR! The 1000RR also accelerates a lot more powerful and harder then the 600 and the power comes on a lot sooner in the RPM range.

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i've been told that the clutches are different...wet vs. dry. can you feel the difference here?

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Get the 1000RR. You will love it.
If they made a CBR2000RR I would own one.

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I just bought the 1k for my first bike and dont have any problems. All u have 2 do is respect the bike and lay off the wrist a bit and u wil be fine. Besides in a couple months if u get the 6 u will wanna trade up to the 1k

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Get the 1000RR simply because you can buy one for $8983 plus tax from Southern Honda. Damn, how do they do that?

I also have to say I own both a 2005 600RR and a 2006 1000RR and my 06 1000RR handles A LOT BETTER, WORLDS BETTER, LIKE NIGHT AND DAY BETTER, (did I say better?) then my 600RR! the 1000RR also is accelerates a lot more powerful and harder then the 600 and the power comes on a lot sooner in the RPM range.
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I dont have a clue where you got your facts but you are way off there buddie. the 600 is faster and turns better than the 1000 up to about 95 mph then the 1000 takes over. If you are taking turns at that speed and can feel a difference than your a better man than 99.9% of us

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Your gona die !!!

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First I didn't quote any facts; I only stated what I've personally experienced since my wife and I currently own both bikes. When I said my 1000 handles better then my wife's 600 I meant that I can lean the 1000 over farther and "flick" it easier then the 600 and it feels a lot more natural doing both. For some reason I have to muscle the 600 over more and it keeps wanting to stand upright when leaned over. When I trail brake both bikes the 1000 wants to stay leaned over in the turns but again the 600 wants to stand up right. In regards to the 1000 pulling faster, harder and feeling the power coming on sooner, same thing, I am only going by what I've experienced riding both bikes. The 1000 will wheelie for days effortlessly in first and second gear. I probably will do so in third gear but I don’t have to skill to try it yet. The 600 needs the on/off/on throttle technique to get it to wheelie. Even after a -1/+2 gear change the 600 still needs finessed to wheelie in first and now second gear. Back to handling, for all I know the 600 should handle better than the 1000 but my wife's definitely handles worse. Maybe it's because the 600’s suspension needs some major adjusting and the 1000 is set up just right? I hope to find out next week when I take both up to Mid-Ohio first track days event.

Since you mention "facts” where are you getting yours? Below are the quarter miles times, 60-80mph times (sec.) and the 80-100 times (sec.) in that order from www.sportrider.com. I admit I am no expert when it comes to judging the performance differences between motorcycles but if what you say is true, "the 600 is faster and turns better than the 1000 up to about 95 mph then the 1000 takes over", how is the 1000 faster in the quarter mile, 60-80mph and the 80-100mph? Please explain because I am eager to learn.

Motorcycle (Quarter Mile time) (60-80MPH) (80-1000MPH)
CBR600RR ('05) (10.49 @ 133.3) (3.59) (3.56)

CBR1000RR ('06) (9.898 @ 146.47) (2.76) (2.58)

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Blah, blah. So what did you get? The 600 or 1000? Lets us know.

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I have to reply when challenged but I do admit I tend to rant on some times. :D

So yea, Stelmadl, what did you get?

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1000rr is hydraulic, the 600rr is cable.. neither are dry clutches.. you can launch the 600 better cause you can slip the clutch better on a cable..

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vermino,
i dont no where you get your facts. ive had both the 600rr and now the 1000rr and the 1000rr will eat the 600 for lunch when it comes to speed and power. and who ever says you cannot tell the differance between the 600 power delivery compaired to the 1000 is eather asleep or drunk. the 600 comes in at aroung 9000 hard the 1000 comes in at about 3500 hard with about 50 more ponies . and the differance in top speed is awsome . now the new 1000rr that will be the 2006 is only 30lbs heavier then the 600 and believe me they hid the weight well. my friend ride the 600 and the 1000 and he agrees with me the 2006 1000 handles better and is by far way quicker then the 600. iam in no way knocking the 600 i loved it but cant keep both so i have the 1000rr the power delivery just fits me better i lolve the bottom end it has. by the way i had a yosh fullsystem/power commander/3in2 gear set on the 600 wasnt to much difference between the both but some and a lot on the top

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So...somehown I think the original poster got lost in here....did he buy a bike yet?

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I'm here....no bike yet. I went to the dealer recently and the bike (1000RR Grey) I was watching had a sold sticker on it.....:(

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I really don't think you can go wrong with the 1krr...I have had mine just over a week and the bike just continues to amaze me...its really a point and shoot machine; it wants to turn and it wants to go fast, but it behaves well we you just can't do that. I hope you get which ever bike you choose soon. I waited a really long time, thinking, looking, comparing, and thinking so more. Wished I'd have made my move sooner, although I'd have probably paid more; I wasted three months of some of the best riding weather here contemplating a decision that i just made too hard. I am 100% completely satisfied with my decision, and I'm sure you will be too.

Let everyone know what you get!

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thinking, looking, thinking, talking, thinking, thinking.......i just gotta do somethingt! I'm getting tired of thinking! Will keep ya'll posted. The replies have been great. Keep the opinions going.

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I am in the same boat. I was leaning towards the 1k but the 6 has alot of power too. After reading the replies I am puttin my money on the 1k. My next problem, what color to choose. Im liking the blue and yellow, but like the traditional red/black is callin me. The gray is pretty sweet too.... DAMN!!!!!!

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i own the gray it's sweet

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Damn, I just saw the pics of Deezuhl's bike. Thats a sick lookin bike. Now I have to add Black as one of my choices.

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The 1000RR is a solid bike on the bends. I know I just come from a track day. And my new tires are shredded!!! **** them track days are eating my tires. let us know what you get. And make it quick coz we are all waiting here!!

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Well this weekend sucked! My (distant) friend's dad was killed Friday on his bike. An idiot pulled in front of him at an intersection. I did not need this. You can be safe as can be and this happens. What to do?

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my condolences....its bad news when any bretheren die, regardless of what they ride. And you are right, safe or not, everyone still is at risk by our 4 wheeled road mates. But I really believe that you are just as liked to be killed doing other normal things as you are on your bike. When you think about what you hear on your local news, there are more car fatalities, murders and natural cause deaths than there are motorcycle fatalities or even accidents. That doesn't mean we aren't tempting fate, and if you do start riding, you have to avoid squidly behavior, which will definitely help you stay on two wheels. Riding a bike, at least for me, is something I am passionate about, but not foolish. I respect my bike and the freedom it gives me, but I don't fear it. They say that if you fear something enough, you can make it happen and I truly believe that. You also have another issue right now, and that is your girlfriend, and its sounds like what she thinks matters to you, so out of respect, you might consider at least holding off. I doubt she's is any mind set to bless your new purchase, and really, she shouldn't have to even think about that right now. Please let her know that we 'all' are sorry for her loss. Let her heal.

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my bad...for some reason i thought you said your girlfriend....all else still applies, but go get the bike:)