Rebuilding the petcock - any hints?
#11
It's important to note something. I visited two shops I frequent (mostly parts for the STead) and the owners both stated the same thing:
"It's the ethanol in the fuel that ruins the rubber pieces".
One owner went as far as to say that most of his business nowadays is related to fuel-component failures because of the ethanol. He further states that the "damaging process" begins not long after you fill up, since the fuel sits in the tank for days (phase separation).
The other stated, "I used to sell the rebuild kits, but I just tell people to buy a new petcock (etc)", citing the same reason, "it's the ethanol".
Here in the US, there's a govt mandate that states fuel contain some percentage of ethanol. The stations I pull into here in Texas, show 10% ethanol at the "standard" pumps - there are options at some stations (or ethanol dedicated stations) for E15 (%) and higher.
The one owner mentioned that his "race gas" sales have gone up, as folks will run a tank of race gas once a month, to help alleviate the destructive side-effect of ethanol.
URL to a brief explanation about phase separation:
What are the Effects of Ethanol in Gasoline and How to Protect your Engines Against it? | Cool Rides Online
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"It's the ethanol in the fuel that ruins the rubber pieces".
One owner went as far as to say that most of his business nowadays is related to fuel-component failures because of the ethanol. He further states that the "damaging process" begins not long after you fill up, since the fuel sits in the tank for days (phase separation).
The other stated, "I used to sell the rebuild kits, but I just tell people to buy a new petcock (etc)", citing the same reason, "it's the ethanol".
Here in the US, there's a govt mandate that states fuel contain some percentage of ethanol. The stations I pull into here in Texas, show 10% ethanol at the "standard" pumps - there are options at some stations (or ethanol dedicated stations) for E15 (%) and higher.
The one owner mentioned that his "race gas" sales have gone up, as folks will run a tank of race gas once a month, to help alleviate the destructive side-effect of ethanol.
URL to a brief explanation about phase separation:
What are the Effects of Ethanol in Gasoline and How to Protect your Engines Against it? | Cool Rides Online
.
Last edited by caldercay; 03-17-2014 at 10:45 AM.
#13
The upside is that the petcock is now user-serviceable on the valve side. In the future, I'll simply drain the tank (~5 minutes time), remove to 2 screws and replace the o-ring(s).
#15
I used Permatix blue treadlocker on the screws, which should keep the screws in place. Also, I marked the edge of the screws (and petcock's body) position with a white paint marker, so a quick visual inspection will tell me if the screw(s) have moved.
#16
Hi, sorry for the google translation.
Right now I do not have a vertical drill, which would have given me better precision when drilling, and can tap to 4mm. I have preferred to screw to 3mm and in the same way keep part of the original rivets as a centering.
Ahora mismo no dispongo de un taladro vertical, el cual me hubiera dado mejor precisión a la hora de taladrar, pudiendo roscar a 4mm. He preferido roscar a 3mm y de paso conservar parte de los remaches originales a modo de centrador.
As you can see, the twin O-rings are damaged, which causes the petcock not to do its function on - reserve - off
Como se puede apreciar, las tóricas gemelas están dańadas, lo cual provoca que la llave de paso no haga su función abierto - reserva -cerrado.
Right now I do not have a vertical drill, which would have given me better precision when drilling, and can tap to 4mm. I have preferred to screw to 3mm and in the same way keep part of the original rivets as a centering.
Ahora mismo no dispongo de un taladro vertical, el cual me hubiera dado mejor precisión a la hora de taladrar, pudiendo roscar a 4mm. He preferido roscar a 3mm y de paso conservar parte de los remaches originales a modo de centrador.
As you can see, the twin O-rings are damaged, which causes the petcock not to do its function on - reserve - off
Como se puede apreciar, las tóricas gemelas están dańadas, lo cual provoca que la llave de paso no haga su función abierto - reserva -cerrado.
Last edited by soilengreen; 07-02-2018 at 08:23 AM. Reason: adding info
#17
To access the twin O-rings, there is no choice but to lower the rivets to remove the plate and have free access to them. Be careful not to lower more than necessary rivets, to be able to use centering
As a replacement to the twin O-rings I thought of the typical rubber metal washers, such as those in the picture
The external diameter of the housing measures ~ 11.5 mm and the inside diameter ~ 6.6 mm. The internal 6mm rubber metal washers / joints usually have an outer measurement of 12 mm. It is very likely that retouching it a bit works well.
Para poder acceder a las tóricas gemelas, no queda mas remedio que rebajar los remaches para poder sacar la placa y tener libre acceso a ellas. Hay que tener cuidado de no rebajar mas de lo necesario los remacha, para poder usarlos de centradores
Como recambio a las tóricas gemelas he pensado en las típicas arandelas de metal caucho, tales como las de la foto
El diámetro externo del alojamiento mide ~11,5 mm y el diámetro interior ~6,6 mm. Las arandelas / juntas de metal caucho de 6mm interior , suelen tener una medida exterior de 12 mm. Es muy probable que retocándola un poco funcione bien.
Last edited by soilengreen; 07-01-2018 at 10:01 AM.
#18