hurricane cam identification
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Sprock, old friend, sometimes you just have to learn from your mistakes.
I guess this may well be one of those times.
Experience and the combined knowledge of over 140 1000F owners sometimes just isn't enough.............
you go ahead Lilryan and good luck to you.
But don't expect too much help if it goes wrong.
We did warn you.........................
I guess this may well be one of those times.
Experience and the combined knowledge of over 140 1000F owners sometimes just isn't enough.............
you go ahead Lilryan and good luck to you.
But don't expect too much help if it goes wrong.
We did warn you.........................
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Lilryan;
no wish to rain on your parade (and I don't wish to get involved in a highly technical argument because I am not speaking from experience)
but the Haynes Manual (for the CBR) states (pg 55, sec.9) :
"If the camshaft bearing surfaces are scored or excessively worn, it is likely that the renewal of both the cylinder head and camshafts will be necessary. This is because the camshafts run directly in the cylinder head casting, using the alloy as a bearing surface".
It then goes on to make some disclaimers and give advice as to potentially fitting a needle roller conversion.
So; like it or not, that is the take from the Hurricane end of the camp.
However, what you're doing is a little different in proposing to fit them to a CB 1000. So maybe it could work, if the CB has a different bearing set-up to the CBR.
Supplementary questions :
Is the distance between valves the same?
Hell, is the overall camshaft length the same?
Bearing journals at the same distance?
The CBR camshaft gives a higher lift and longer dwell than the CB cam. Are you absolutely happy that there is enough room for all the valves and the piston to happily co-exist in the combustion chamber (at 10,000 rpm) with those changes?
I'm sure you have already done this research and satisfied yourself that it all works. I guess a CB Forum would answer those questions, if you haven't already done so.
Whilst it would appear from one of the earlier comments that it is a doable thing; I would not necessarily assume that it is a straight bolt-on conversion.
Otherwise, maybe Honda would have done it.
no wish to rain on your parade (and I don't wish to get involved in a highly technical argument because I am not speaking from experience)
but the Haynes Manual (for the CBR) states (pg 55, sec.9) :
"If the camshaft bearing surfaces are scored or excessively worn, it is likely that the renewal of both the cylinder head and camshafts will be necessary. This is because the camshafts run directly in the cylinder head casting, using the alloy as a bearing surface".
It then goes on to make some disclaimers and give advice as to potentially fitting a needle roller conversion.
So; like it or not, that is the take from the Hurricane end of the camp.
However, what you're doing is a little different in proposing to fit them to a CB 1000. So maybe it could work, if the CB has a different bearing set-up to the CBR.
Supplementary questions :
Is the distance between valves the same?
Hell, is the overall camshaft length the same?
Bearing journals at the same distance?
The CBR camshaft gives a higher lift and longer dwell than the CB cam. Are you absolutely happy that there is enough room for all the valves and the piston to happily co-exist in the combustion chamber (at 10,000 rpm) with those changes?
I'm sure you have already done this research and satisfied yourself that it all works. I guess a CB Forum would answer those questions, if you haven't already done so.
Whilst it would appear from one of the earlier comments that it is a doable thing; I would not necessarily assume that it is a straight bolt-on conversion.
Otherwise, maybe Honda would have done it.
Last edited by kiwi TK; 04-08-2013 at 07:22 AM.
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I have just read in a few places where it had been done, but not much more information than that. That is why i thought it was doable. I gave 50bucks for the cams, so im not out that much if it doesnt work. The carbs should be a simple bolt on, but not might be of much benefit if the cams dont work. I did read one example where someone did just the carbs and they said it ran great.
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