How To Transport
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#13
You do need one high point, like the bars, because that is the easiest place to have the most side to side leverage, to keep it upright. If all your attach points are at mid level, it will tend to twist at that level in corners. So it sounds like the straps in the rear keep it from moving forward under braking and the straps on the bars keep it upright and from moving back during acceleration.
Last edited by JHouse; 01-17-2010 at 11:11 AM.
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You do need one high point, like the bars, because that is the easies place to have the most side to side leverage, to keep it upright. If all your attach points are at mid level, it will tend to twist at that level in corners. So it sounds like the straps in the rear keep it from moving forward under braking and the straps on the bars keep it upright and from moving back during acceleration.
It is best to have the front wheel up against the front to the truck bed or front of the trailer for breaking. It is a little tricky with a trailer as you want to distribute the weight evenly over the trailer wheels so that the trailer is balanced with not to much weight on the tongue of the tow vehicle.
As mention before, compressing the bike suspension a little helps to suck up bumps as the trailer or pick-up hits bumps and the bikes suspension compresses, at witch point the straps go loose if the suspension did not take up the slack.
I have not had to transport one of these bikes but can tell that it is a little harder to do so due to the plastic blocking access to the upper triple tree or to the handle bars, inside of the controls.
Typically I would use the Handle Bar Straps and grab the bars inside of the controls as not to harm them. If I had to transport one of theses bike I would be looking for ways to grab the lower triple tree form underneath or remove some plastic to get to the frame.
The grab bar is perfect for strapping the rear down.
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You do need one high point, like the bars, because that is the easies place to have the most side to side leverage, to keep it upright. If all your attach points are at mid level, it will tend to twist at that level in corners. So it sounds like the straps in the rear keep it from moving forward under braking and the straps on the bars keep it upright and from moving back during acceleration.
The thing that keeps it from moving forward should be a wheel chock, or the front of the trailer or truck. You don't want that kind of stress on the straps if you can help it.
re: the other post about the plastic being in the way...this is why you want to use a canyon dancer (or similar). With a bar harness type thing, the plastic isn't an issue. I trailered my CBR from Toledo OH to Nashville when I bought it like this, no problem.
Just remember, don't haul down the front end as if it's the only thing between you and disaster. If the side ones are good and tight, the front is just a safety...let the forks absorb some bumps.
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I setup a small open trailer and now my enclosed trailer the same way. I use the straps called soft extentions with the loops on both ends to wrap around the forks in front, and the frame just under the seat in back. I used heavy duty eyelets on the open trailer, as it was a temp method of transport. Switched to the flush mounts on the new trailer. I use a wheel chock and ratcheting straps. The mounts are oriented so that the bike is pulled forward, into the chock, sorta at a 45 degree angle.
This method only needs one person to tie the bike down.
http://www.pingelonline.com/recommended_tiedown.htm
This method only needs one person to tie the bike down.
http://www.pingelonline.com/recommended_tiedown.htm
Last edited by knagy389us; 01-13-2010 at 10:46 AM.
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An experienced older rider told me all you need is two straps from the handlebars down to the front corners of a pick up or van. Front tire has to be pushed hard against the bed and while sitting on the bike push hard on the handlebars as another person tightens the two straps to compress the forks. There is NO STRAPS necessary in the back. I have been using this method since without any issues but not sure if a small trailer is the same as its lighter without suspension and hops more on pumps.
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An experienced older rider told me all you need is two straps from the handlebars down to the front corners of a pick up or van. Front tire has to be pushed hard against the bed and while sitting on the bike push hard on the handlebars as another person tightens the two straps to compress the forks. There is NO STRAPS necessary in the back. I have been using this method since without any issues but not sure if a small trailer is the same as its lighter without suspension and hops more on pumps.
I've also seen bent handlebars from excessive leverage via straps, I've seen broken throttle housings, ruined grips. broken switch gear etc. all from excessive force in this area. I'm not saying that it's not possible to do it this way without these issues...I'm just saying that it is impossible to have these issues if it's done a little differently. There are many different ways to skin this cat, but not very many are effective, easy, safe (see above), and treat your bike well.
On a side note, if you're trying to get straps on your forks so tight that you need someone to push down on the front end for you, that's about 6x more force than nec. if you use proper straps in the rear. The front ones should only be there to keep the bike upright if one of the rear ones loosens or fails.
Last edited by dietDrThunder; 01-15-2010 at 10:47 AM.
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Yer , I don't think I would trust just one strap each side at the front ...
That guy may have been experienced , or he may just have been lucky ..??
I have had that type of setup let go one side more than once and it ain't preety !!! and they were just dirt bikes too....
The 1000F would not take kindly to being pummeled into the side of a truck or tailor if a strap let go ...
No way would I ever transport a big road bike with one strap each side ...ever !!!
That guy may have been experienced , or he may just have been lucky ..??
I have had that type of setup let go one side more than once and it ain't preety !!! and they were just dirt bikes too....
The 1000F would not take kindly to being pummeled into the side of a truck or tailor if a strap let go ...
No way would I ever transport a big road bike with one strap each side ...ever !!!