Hey guys, I realize it's been over two years since this thread had activity, but did anyone ever find a resolution on the ability to fit the CBX750FE manual CCT into the 1000F?

I'm also facing this absolutely annoying cam chain noise issue right now. I pulled my CCT and it seems to move smoothly now that all the oil is drained, but when I first took the upper cam chain guide off I found a lot of slack in the run of chain between the cam sprockets, as if the CCT were stuck. I pushed down on the spring loaded piston with a long screwdriver and suddenly the chain went taught. The hydraulic lock system on the CCT is crap! I'd love to replace it with a manually adjusted CCT if possible. I did this on my dirtbike and it works great.

Any new news on this subject?? HELP! )

 

Honda developed a modified CCT which can be purchased from www.wemoto.uk. The piston throw is longer than on the original, or so I'm told....it certainly looks longer than the original from my 90 model, about twice as long. Around $118 for the unit.

 

Hi Shadow, I should have stated that I have a '93 model. I believe the CCT on my bike is the one you are describing, with the longer piston tube at the bottom. I looked as some schematics from the older models and saw they had a CCT with a much shorter piston tube at the bottom. I'm not sure how much pressue the spring is supposed to supply, but it sure doesn't seem like mine is all that strong, but I have nothing to compare it to, just my effort to move it with my hands.

Is there a spec for measuring the distance between a given number of pins on the cam chain to see if it is streteched?

 

Mine had a sag in it between the two timing camshaft gears - when we removed it and laid it flat, the stretch was more than a full link in length ! (Mine seemed to stutter sometimes - that was the reason)
Should be NO sag at all in the chain - almost feels too tight when it's correctly fitted.

 

Shadow, my bike is at 26K miles. Is that enough to have a too stretched chain?

Is anybody aware of a better than OEM quality replacement cam chain? I've been looking online and all I can find available is the OEM replacement.

 

At 26000 miles I would say yes - mine had about that mileage when my chain became noisy.
Much also depends on how hard the bike has been ridden, and how well it has been maintained.
DID make a camchain with a masterlink, which means no splitting the engine casings - I have one in my bike, and have just posted one off to Gill. Part No is SCA 412-150 Cost over the counter here is $75 US including postage. (Registered airmail, South Africa to Canada) I believe Takasago also make an aftermarket chain, but I have no details.
There's a "how to" somewhere on the Forum - have a look, it's not difficult, and should take you less than a day. Having done mine "by the book" (except I ground away a link to get the old chain out) I could probably do it now in about 4 hours, maybe less.
Moving the piston on the CCT is easier when there's no oil in it - when you remove the CCT, check for "varnish-like" deposits on the CCT piston which inhibit the movement of the CCT over time. I didn't replace my CCT, just serviced it, and replaced the chain, and my CCT is the older model with the shorter piston.

 

Thanks for the info Shadow. I have my intake cam and CCT already out. I have cleaned the CCT w/solvent (pumping itwith solvent, draining and reapeating several times)and it moves smoothly now. I'm just not too sure how the spring tension would compare to a new one. The price you quoted for the DID chain seems really good. I will search for the part number you supplied and see what I can find.

So you install the CCT w/out oil (for easier spring compression while installing the chain) and then fill it up with fresh oil and pump it several times to prime it?

Thanks again!

 

Install the chain first, then the CCT, as I recall, then check the cam alignment Dribble oil down the middle to prime it.
If you can find a distributor in the US or Canada, please let us know - Gill had one on back order from Mexico for 4 months ! I can get one over the counter here, through my local, friendly bike shop, and have it to you in about 10 days.
As for spring tension on the CCT, my bike has the older CCT, original, short plunger barrel and has now done 68000 Kilos (42000 odd miles)

 

The DID cam chain part number I found on the DID website (SCA0412A SDH)is a little different than the one given above. The web site says this is a 150 link chain, which seems to be indicated in the part numberquoted byShadow1. I still have not found anyone who carries either part number, but am still looking.

Here's the DID web site link for p/n information:

http://www.didchain.com/hondapage3.htm

 

How different ?- here's the box mine came in !
Part no I gave was from memory, but you got the idea......
If you find a distributor - that's great - saves me getting funny looks from my friendly bike dealer every time I order another chain - I got the usual "what - not ANOTHER camchain - " last week

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