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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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I want alot more acceleration so I can pull out of turns hard and fast also for amature dragging. I read that the stage 1 won't really effect my top end but obviously it is better acceleration than stock. The Stage 2 is sort of made for stunters but they said I will lose 5-10% off my top end. Say my bike goes 165(it can stock) I will only be losing at most 16.5 mph of the top which puts me down to around 148ish topend which is fast enough, but will the stage 2 be too much of a change. Will it be too hard and quick to go up through the gears when normal riding? Thanks
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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you must be talking about final drive components, as i've never heard them being referred to as "Stage X kits"...

and 165 on a stock F4i? down hill, with hurricane force back wind, and a swift kick in the *** maybe...

what's the sprocket tooth change from stock?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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change of gearing would get better results. But if you are set on a jet change go with the stage 2.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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yeah considering you mentioned stunters, i am assuming you are talking about gearing changes....also that you are talking about losing top end (typically with a quick acceleration gear change)....

short answer....changing your gears will get you faster and you'll lose some top end....

long complex answer i won't get into....you can change your gear ratio so much so as to make it have CRAZY low-end torque...which is essentially what the stunters do to get the front up real quick...that being said...you try and accelerate hard with a big gear kit, you're gonna loop it....drag bikes i think have bigger rear sprockets, but they have an anti-wheelie bar to prevent the front end from coming up....you're going to have to evaluate exactly what you want...and yes a big rear gear is going to make you shift like mad in normal traffic...you're going to hit your limiter MUCH quicker....
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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i'm presuming this IS a gearing... because a properly tuned Jet kit would not effect one's speed...

or the fact that i think he's got an F4i...
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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I am sorry for not stating that I am talking about sprocket kits. Just for the record, it was a gradule down hill slope that "someone" hit 165 with just a slip on. Anywho, I dont have any intentions in "stunting," I just want have mad acceleration to a point that I have good control and not losing too much top end. What do you think my limit is as far as sprocket changes?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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you can go as high as 14f/60R (which is just straight up ridiculous)

but if you want to FEEL a LITTLE more acceleration, i'd go for a 3:1 setup.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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-1, +2 will give you exactly what you desire.

http://www.riverwayracing.com/store/...roducts_id/124

 
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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ORIGINAL: Jump1979man

-1, +2 will give you exactly what you desire.

http://www.riverwayracing.com/store/...roducts_id/124

I agree... BIG difference in acceleration. Be careful though because the front end will want to stand up in 1st and second under hard acceleration, especially if you're talking about exiting a corner while in full gallop...
 
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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i had the stage 1 kit on my 01 f4i, first which is-1, +2, and it wasgood, idon't think ilost any top end, but then i put the stage 2, which is -2, +2 on it and i think it is great for the so calcanyonsit pulls so much harder now.you do have to have a lil bit more careful withthrottle control though, becuz it seems a bit more twitchy now, but not 2 bad.yes under hard acceleration it does want to bring the front end up, especially in 1st, 2nd is great though.stage 2sux on the freeway now though becuz at like 80mph i am turning like 9k-10krpm. and i think i can only top out at like 135-140mph. but i also go to the amature drags and withthe front end strapped i turned a 11.6@118mph... so if your willing to deal with it on the freeway, i think it's a great everywhereset up
 
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