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From a racers standpoint...
The 190 weights more...enough to make a noticable difference.
The 190 offers more "side traction".
The 190 requires a different suspension set-up to work.
The 190 requires moreturn-in effort and is not as "flickable" side to side.
On tracks with long, flowing, fast corners, a 190/55 works well becuase of the additional side traction. But on shorter, tighter more techinical tracks the 180 works better becuase you're spending more time going side to side.

I've tried it, didn't really like but could feel in some corners where it would help, BUT Inever set my racebike up for it...

It's safe to do, but unless you can run a fairly quick race pace, I doubt you'd notice any real traction difference. At most you'd probablynotice the additional pressure required during intial turn-in. Stay away from the 190/50 unless you go with a 6" rim, the 190/55 is a little pinched on the 5.5" rim, but a 190/50 is really pinched on a 5.5" rim.


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iv also heard that it will bend the lip of the rim over time if its a stock 600 wheel with a 190 on it
Who ever told you that should be smacked up side the head, tires don't bend rims... incompenent tire changers, pot holes and crashes bend rims.

This is pretty much what I was going to say, but I'll add my little bit anyways.

I got my bike with a 190. Damn thing flat spotted hard core in the center. Cornering was either all or nothing in regards to lean. It was doable, but it wasn't great. I put a 180 on the last change. WHOA! It was like the bike came back to life. Flickable, lean control, and the center was not nearly as flat as the 190 after nearly as many miles. I'd never go back to a 190.
 
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AAH! conflicting opinions.. which is what I expected. Is it safe or not, and will I lose any ability to get-er down low?
no, if anything it helps keep it planted during lean. but you must really lean leaning the hell out of it. 190/55 for the track, 180/55 for the street.

you ride like a retard at the track, not the street.
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:26 AM
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Default RE: 190 on a 600RR?

Now it makes much more sense.. thanks for the help guys, im just going to go with a dual compound 180 to get a little extra side stick.
 
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Default RE: 190 on a 600RR?

So basically you can do it, however its more "bulky" for lack of better words? Why does it work so well on the 1000 then?
 
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wider rim
 
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Default RE: 190 on a 600RR?

so if you get a different rim could thats solve it? or would that then make it not fit between the swingarm?
 
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wider rim
Not just the wider rim. The 1k's suspension has been tuned for the 190 tireand the extra weight the bike hashelps with getting the bike leaned.
 
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Default RE: 190 on a 600RR?

ORIGINAL: Jason748

From a racers standpoint...
The 190 weights more...enough to make a noticable difference.
The 190 offers more "side traction".
The 190 requires a different suspension set-up to work.
The 190 requires moreturn-in effort and is not as "flickable" side to side.
On tracks with long, flowing, fast corners, a 190/55 works well becuase of the additional side traction. But on shorter, tighter more techinical tracks the 180 works better becuase you're spending more time going side to side.

I've tried it, didn't really like but could feel in some corners where it would help, BUT Inever set my racebike up for it...

It's safe to do, but unless you can run a fairly quick race pace, I doubt you'd notice any real traction difference. At most you'd probablynotice the additional pressure required during intial turn-in. Stay away from the 190/50 unless you go with a 6" rim, the 190/55 is a little pinched on the 5.5" rim, but a 190/50 is really pinched on a 5.5" rim.


ORIGINAL: bigcha40
iv also heard that it will bend the lip of the rim over time if its a stock 600 wheel with a 190 on it
Who ever told you that should be smacked up side the head, tires don't bend rims... incompenent tire changers, pot holes and crashes bend rims.
well i guess i learned something new today. btw it was a mechanic at my local honda shop who told me
 
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:41 PM
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Default RE: 190 on a 600RR?

The "wider" tire will not make the rim wider, so all you end up doing is making the tire taller. Make sense. I'm sure you'll get a little wider but it's not going to be the real 190 compared to the 180.
 
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Default Yes a 190 fits fine. And the perfomance is much better.

Originally Posted by bluej511
a 190 fits from what i understand but your decreasing lean angle or something but better straight line traction.
Dude i just got a new 190 shinko advance. And the confidence in laying into a turn is amazing. You can drag a knee at every intersection. Really fun a d its a real jaw dropper when you do it. I could tell a big difference for the better. I have a 2008....
 
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