Pushing the mental barrier
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09-19-2010, 10:22 PM
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Thats how we leave the driveway out here in the sticks across 95 Sprock, hah. I actually never broke out of that way of thinking untill I came into a corner to hot and said to myself well I sort of have to, ever since I've felt much better on the bike.
There is once corner with a mailbox and I'll be set up perfect but once i see it sticking out so far my body gets all tense and I have to force myself to not think about it. I don't even know why its not like I'm even close to it haha.
There is once corner with a mailbox and I'll be set up perfect but once i see it sticking out so far my body gets all tense and I have to force myself to not think about it. I don't even know why its not like I'm even close to it haha.
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09-20-2010, 05:00 AM
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Going into a track out here is pretty damn expensive, and basically there are no instructors to speak of... just track days. and I'd rather take my chances on the street than be in the same track with all those foolish adrenaline junkies with more money than sense. the street is safer. 
Ill have a read up on the twist of the wrist, but I figure its like fubbzie says... (just sort of have to...)
BTW, maybe you just dont like mailboxes mate, I have the same thing with clowns lol.
Ill have a read up on the twist of the wrist, but I figure its like fubbzie says... (just sort of have to...)
BTW, maybe you just dont like mailboxes mate, I have the same thing with clowns lol.
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09-20-2010, 10:35 AM
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Meh I won't have to worry about it next year... come winter the plow will relocate it for me and the new people moving in will learn. I do plan on taking a track day tho sometime next year, I've herd there are some things you pick up there that could save you *** someday so 
expensive but fun.
expensive but fun.
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I "AM" interested in going to one of the California Superbike School's Day. I think they stop by every year. Im sure I could learn a lot off that.
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10-14-2010, 09:11 PM
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I've heard this described as your body knowing its doing something dangerous, and trying to take over the situation without you ordering it to...
Imagine you're about to tackle that corner you know so well, and you know that its good for a knee down, but you simply cant get yourself out of that comfort zone in your lean...
How do you push that mental barrier keeping you from raging through that corner knee down and carvin it?
Imagine you're about to tackle that corner you know so well, and you know that its good for a knee down, but you simply cant get yourself out of that comfort zone in your lean...
How do you push that mental barrier keeping you from raging through that corner knee down and carvin it?
Get a bike with respectable suspension, get on a track, and practice your ***** off. 1 step at a time is how you do it. Every lap you do, you say, ok that one was easy, push a little harder. If you increase your pushing by very small increments, then you will learn and be fine. Having a better rider to follow helps too.
The point is, learn in a safer environment. Its hard to do in on the street... too much can go wrong. I still have never got a knee down on the street, I refuse to push that hard in such a chaotic environment. It's just dumb.
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10-14-2010, 09:26 PM
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Going into a track out here is pretty damn expensive, and basically there are no instructors to speak of... just track days. and I'd rather take my chances on the street than be in the same track with all those foolish adrenaline junkies with more money than sense. the street is safer.
Ill have a read up on the twist of the wrist, but I figure its like fubbzie says... (just sort of have to...)
BTW, maybe you just dont like mailboxes mate, I have the same thing with clowns lol.
Ill have a read up on the twist of the wrist, but I figure its like fubbzie says... (just sort of have to...)
BTW, maybe you just dont like mailboxes mate, I have the same thing with clowns lol.
The street is never safer, EVER. So far on the track I have seen around 20 people wreck. Every one of them walked away, maybe a bruise or 2, but nothing serious at all. They all went home that night. I've only seen 2 people wreck on the street. One had to get reconstructive knee surgery, and the other a few nights in the hospital because of severe road rash.
Track days are expensive, but hospital bills far out weigh that. You are gambling... I used to do it too. 1 day at the track though and you will be hooked. You wont even care about riding on the street anymore because it is so bland and unsafe, and what you think is fast now, will be child's play, because you will be that much better.
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10-14-2010, 09:41 PM
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Track work is all very well and good , but .........
If we are trying to stay alive at a good pace on public roads , there ain't no substitute for hrs in the saddle on the twisties to clear the mind and push a few limits ...
The mental barriers as they have been called in this thread are what sorts out the riders from the hospital cases..
One major cause of accidents is riders that freeze up when there head panics and tells them they are past any limit that it is used too ... and they are gunna die ..lol
I think the trick is to try a little harder, only periodically , to begin to get used to different limits.. .. leaning , braking , high speed cornering ect ect are things that cause all of us to reach limits that can bother us at times ...
So lot's of practice on the road, in the traffic with all its dangers gives one the chance to slowly become acustom to all the aspects of our own limitations and slowly deal with the ones that give us the most trouble or cause the most fear in our minds ...
As I said track work is great , but if you take what you learn from a track and apply it to a public road and car on the side road or the sand on the corner are added to the mix , your track lean't limits may just get you when you least expect it and cause you and your perfected track skills to wind up in the emergency dept at the hospital......
If we are trying to stay alive at a good pace on public roads , there ain't no substitute for hrs in the saddle on the twisties to clear the mind and push a few limits ...
The mental barriers as they have been called in this thread are what sorts out the riders from the hospital cases..
One major cause of accidents is riders that freeze up when there head panics and tells them they are past any limit that it is used too ... and they are gunna die ..lol
I think the trick is to try a little harder, only periodically , to begin to get used to different limits.. .. leaning , braking , high speed cornering ect ect are things that cause all of us to reach limits that can bother us at times ...
So lot's of practice on the road, in the traffic with all its dangers gives one the chance to slowly become acustom to all the aspects of our own limitations and slowly deal with the ones that give us the most trouble or cause the most fear in our minds ...
As I said track work is great , but if you take what you learn from a track and apply it to a public road and car on the side road or the sand on the corner are added to the mix , your track lean't limits may just get you when you least expect it and cause you and your perfected track skills to wind up in the emergency dept at the hospital......
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#20
10-14-2010, 10:37 PM
Well if you want to do it "Proper" we're all right. Ideally you want to:
I'm not saying you should be draggin knees around City Hall in Center City. But skills not used regularly atrophy. And few can spend every day at the track
- Study the theory from good sources, like Keith Code, before attempting it
- Learn the mechanics in a controlled environment, like a track, so you can focus on doing it right
- Practice and reinforce the skills in real world situations, like twisties and freeway clovers
I'm not saying you should be draggin knees around City Hall in Center City. But skills not used regularly atrophy. And few can spend every day at the track