I agree with you almost 100% on this one. There are some good people in all places, but sometimes the small amout of the good has to go so the large amount of the bad is removed. It's like surgery-you have to take some good tissue out to remove the bad.

 

Maybe this country could just cut its foreign oil consumption by say 75%. Then there'd be no money for RPG's or much beyond rocks. Try and completely remove the middle east from existence will convince the rest of the world that America is the cancer spreading throughout the world. Seems to me that'd be cheaper and there'd be no need for a fantastic loss of life.

 

damn man thats nuts...I saw a vid like that a few years back, pretty disturbing stuff

 

I want to point out... that we all love our military. I've read countless articles of how our troops do good over there. Within those countless good articles, are news of how many, many soldiers find new pets. For instance, a story I read the story of Marine Maj. Brian Dennis. While on patrol in the Anbar province, he met his new friend, Nubs. When his squad was relocated 65 miles away, he wasn't permitted to take the dog with him, and just watched as Nubs tried to follow the Humvees away from the border. Two days later, Nubs showed up when Dennis was working on a Humvee.

Heartwarming good story in so much death and destruction. Yet we see one video of one marine throwing a crying puppy off a cliff and suddenly we get more and more people from all over the world screaming bloody murder and how evil we are.

Which story is going to stick more? The growing attachment of Soldiers and dogs or one video of a very heinous act? The negative always dwarfs the positive. So, yes, you watched this video and you see this kid being taught to kill. We never see any of the good that is going on, because it doesn't grab ratings. Their are probably thousands of good deeds going on, but we just see the bad done by a select few.

It happens there; it happens here; it happens everywhere.

 

I'm gona quote what my 11th grade American History teacher told the class about oil. He was a great teacher and a good man.

"America has a crap load of oil in its land. Theres a crap load of oil in the gulf, texas, and off the coast of America. Why arn't we using that oil then? We are using up all the foriegn oil FIRST before we start using ours so when theres no more oil left anywhere else we will be the last ones to have oil."

 

too bad that physically impossible, we dont have the supply, or production to sustain energy use in this country on our own oil. Believe me i work in the O&G industry. Its been discussed many times over.


PS... did you guys know that Moscow now has more billionaires than NYC.....

 

I'm not implying that in the least bit. When we capture someone and they are not "treated like a king", then it's made to look like WE'RE the bad guys. War is not pretty no matter WHAT side you look from. In war there must be death. For example, if you were amongst the "enemy" and you saw the "enemy" you would want to "eliminate" the "enemy" before he/she "eliminated" you. I've seen too many news programs where the US soldier is on trial for killing the enemy. That happens in war for pete sake! It's not like they strung them up and skinned them alive or something. What are you supposed to do, go over there and just stand there with your finger up your backside?

 

If This Is in Reference to the Supposed Massacre By Marines Who Have All but Been Acquitted of THIS Alleged Act. I Would like to Say Something and Give You Something to Think about.. You Take A Group Of U.S. Marines, Whose Training Has Been Geared To Lightening Attacks Assaults And Tie Them Down To The Role Of Policemen And Good Samaritan And Then Strap Them To Bivouacked Type Living INA High State Of Readiness, Add In A Low Morale Factor Of Having His Brothers In Arms Killed And Maimed By Something As Low Tech As An IED Or Beheaded on Video, Which I Should Not Have To Point Out, But It Bring On The Exact Mind Set, That Guerrilla Warfare Is Designed To Bring Out In A Occupying Military Force. Which Is To Have Them Turn On Those They Have Been Trying To Help, Out Of Sheer Frustration And Pent Up Anger, Over Their Own Personal Living Situations, The Loss Of Brothers in Arms, Fear Of Their Own Loss Of Life Or Limb, And Sheer Frustration Over The Vast Cultural Differences Of Those They Are Trying To Help. If You Keep All Of These Things As A Clear Constant Thought, It Is Quite Easy To See How Soldiers and Marines with Less Than A Decade Of Experience Of Mastering Their Own On Emotions, Can Be Easily Provoked To Let Things Get Out Of Control. Would Never Ridicule Or Belittle The Great Military of This Country, but No One Can Deny That a Small Portion of Individuals with a Little Lower Mental Aptitude And Physical Stamina, Has Been Allowed To Filter Into The Ranks. I Am Not SAYING That IT IS a Mass Epidemic or The Standards Be Set As High As They Were for the Now Nonexistent Force Reconnaissance Marines Or Special Ops Or That They Be Held In Reserve In The Rear Areas Until They Reach A Decade Of Experience, But I Do Suggest That They Be Pushed Much Harder In The Beginning. Then They Are Currently Being Subjected To. I Fully Realize That the Marine Corps Has The Toughest Basic Training Programs In The Nation, But If We Want To Be The Peers That Our Government Is Forcing Us To Be Around The World, Which Supposedly Represents the Will of the People of This Great Nation. We Must Be Willing To Stick Our Chests Out And Step Up, And Also Be Willing To Accept Losses In The First 180 Days Of A Marines' Career. Yes, I Am Speaking Of The Death Of Recruits, The Mental Crushing, And The Psychiatric Hospitalizations Of Recruits, And A Change Back To A out in the Open Enforcement of the Old Rules Of Allowing Drill Instructors To Physically Manhandle Any Recruit That Steps Out Of Line, Giving Officers And NCOS The Authority For Field Execution For Insubordination And Dereliction Of Duty.

[size=3][u]Now With Having Said All Of This, Does It Not Sound As If We Are Becoming What We Are Fighting Against? Is It Not Easier To Say That It Is Human Nature To Error And Only S

 

There was a news report (may not be the same situation you're talking about)where some soldiers that had been shot at, then entered a house and heard a gun being cocked and some "supposed civilians" were killed. If it were me in that situation entering the house and heard the same noise I would have shot them too. It wouldn't be no massacre.

I think it should have been finished the first time it was started and we might not be over there now.

 

http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_tortured/

does that make us soldiers bad ?? i dont think so but bad things happenes every where .even on our side ....in order to judge u need to see the good and the bad . dont just look at the bad thing and then say lets wipe those nations off the map and make a big hole in there like one mentioned above .. that doesnt make no diff between us and them ......im an american citizen and im married to an american . i was born in the middle east and lived there for 12 years .. and no im not takin any ones side . i love life and i believe that every one deserves a good life . its just our nature to look at whats hurts us the most and keep lookin at it ....i know when u look at a bloody vid ( ive seen it along with others beaheding vids) it makes u wanna drop a nuke on the poeple who did that . but they do the same thing they keep lookin at pics and news of what happened in abu gharip and guantanmo and they just get the same feelings ...my point is things have to be dealt in a different way...not suckin their oil and leaving a hole in there .