I never rode the 600 on the street, just had it to work on and originally I was going to completely fix it up to put it on the road but decided to just go with a newer bike.

I rode the 600 maybe like 5 miles total...all of which were veryyyy low speed. (~35)

haha alright. well good luck with whatever bike you get!

Thanks! I'm starting to really lean towards the Ducati. I just need to see how much more the insurance will be on the Ducati compared to the KTM.

I have a feeling I won't like what I find...

Don't be scared! My 1098s isn't too bad to insure...

well, it's not even 800cc, so that should help... and it's not a sportbike....


i bet insuring a 600rr would be more expensive than that duc

I'm an 18 year old male with one season of riding behind me. Any bike is going to be expensive right now.


The new Hypermotard is an 821cc 110HP motor with 89N/M of torque.

The 600rr is a 600cc with 102HP and 61N/M of torque.

The Ducati is a beast...that's sort of what scares me.

oh, i thought it was a 796... still though, it doesn't say supersport... i'd still think it'd be cheaper than a 600rr. it's not just based on hp numbers. supersports are more associated with speed and deaths which is one of the reasons they're so expensive to insure. your hypermotard would be considered more of a standard bike, not sportbike.

don't be scared of a 110hp bike. if you're scared of it, don't get it. i know you've only ridden a 250, but don't be scared of a bike with more power. be excited about it and respect it. it's just like when guys go from a 600 to a 1000. not much changes. sure it has a lot more power, but it's not a different animal...

$1,600/year for insurance for the Ducati, which might drop to $1,400 if I work with my agent. That's through Progressive though, I'll shop around a bit more. I'd be happy to go below $1,000/year.

I guess I'm not "scared" of the power, I'm just kind of getting used to the idea in my head of how much power is there. I'll have to respect it, but that's fine. I mean really...a bike with 70HP that's 110 pounds lighter (the duke) will get me in just as much trouble just as quick as the Ducati.

I'm really liking this bike though!

yup, and remember, that duc doesn't make 110hp at 10% throttle or low rpms.



and is that liability? or full coverage?

Theres no way thats full just by knowing your age