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Old 09-06-2013, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuroshio
Watched the video. The owner of the bike was legally right. But why so sure he wasn't out on the road minutes before, 1 wheel up in the air? We have his half of the story.

My problem with RoC is whatever the original intent was, it's now mostly about giving the finger to "The Man". The attitudes of the majority have made it that. So you can't go pointing at the LEOs for overstepping their boundaries without doing the same for the whole event. Nobody has yet to answer if they've ever sought official sanction for the event.
They did, they had it sanctioned in Colombia, IL (right across the border). They had stunting in a section of the parking lot blocked off from the rest at a sports bar. They had police checkpoints right across the street, and police escorted them on their ride into MO. They tried to have a place at a bike dealership in St. Louis - but the owners of the shop said that there was significant police pressure to not have it.

I'll say it again Kuro, the riders that stunt, run from the cops - those guys should get fines - the guys with no registration, or riding stolen bikes - arrest and impound them.

But what if you were out for a Sunday ride, filling up at a gas station with your new s1000r, and a cop came up and said "I'm taking the bike. The engine is warm." Did you watch the other video I posted? " My LT said to take any bike that has the engine warm." At that point, I couldn't possibly care less about a stunter on the highway.



Originally Posted by boredandstroked
Several people from around here went to this. They got arrested once and their bikes impounded twice, the first round was before the ride even happened. The cops told everyone they were going to make a statement this year and they did, unfortunetley it seems they overstepped. Stunters are a-holes on the public roads when they get in big groups normally so I understand why the cops dislike them but they are letting it get personal and thats a problem.
That's the whole point I was trying to make. All anyone else has said so far is that the cops are in the right to do what they've done.
 
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Old 09-06-2013, 12:55 PM
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Conrice, the police may or may not be justified in their actions (search and seizure gets Grey in the suspicion of illegal activities area). But the event itself can't be defended. Not any more. It's not Daytona Bike Week or any other number of large scale bike rallies which shut down whole cities and towns essentially.

The people participating and promoting RoC have made it into an event about flaunting authority. And when you push against people, eventually they push back. The cops there are pushing back. Some of their tactics are legal, some aren't. And what I think you're not seeing is the fact that the RoC is the cause of the actions taken by the authorities.

And if they had impounded my HP4, I'd be livid... At the fecking squids that pushed things that far. But my bike wouldn't get impounded. There is no way and no possible reason I'd have lifted the kickstand on my bike while RoC was going on. Simply to avoid getting dragged into any drama surrounding it.
 
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:21 AM
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I just see too many reckless drivers in that video to let the event go on. I don't usually side with the cops, but in this case they made the right move by trying to stop the event. If they arrest the few they seen being reckless it's not to say it's gonna be smooth sailing from there.
 
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:15 AM
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I wanted to go for a second after I heard a few people talk about this earlier this year and seemed like a good idea. Then after a few minutes of research and 20 minutes of youtube I knew I would be setting myself up for trouble. Over and over again I kept seeing douchey jack@s$ squids recklessly and intentionally causing needless trouble on the highways and public streets. I wanted no part of it. It isn't fun when you are guilty by association and deemed a threat by the public and city servants.

I do NOT condone the police officers taking anyones bike for the motor being warm, that's BS. If they are physically breaking the law and the police have evidence and/or proof that owner was in the wrong so be it. But that is why we have the 4th admendment for illegal search & seizure, must have reasoning of a crime being/or have committed with evidence to obtain ones property(I took a pre-Law class in college, I actually wanted to be a cop at one time).
The officers obviously overstepped their legal right impounding those bikes at the Motel and I am not defending anyone or police. You have a legal right to ask for a Supervisor(Senior Patrolman) when the law is questionable or the officer is being d!ck and I would have immediately done that and have before. I know my rights.
But you steal, do wheelies in public, put the public in danger, recklessly speed in any traffic, justice should be served. These are obvious idiots expecting to **** off the law and then ask for mercy when the run from the cops and get caught or cornered(not the ones at the motel).
 
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