Need advice fast, making purchace in the morning.
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Need advice fast, making purchace in the morning.
I really need some advice from some people more knowledge than myself. Tomorrow I will make a purchase, I just found out about both of them.
The first is a 1991 GSXR 750 with 28k miles. It need a front fairing, turn signals, steering damper, left mirror, center piece for the lower cowl, tires, and some repairs to the lower cowls both sides, and speedo needle is broke off. Also it needs a new lock cylinder for the gas tank since the ignition key doesn't fit it, but local locksmith will do it for $60 if I bring it in $120 if they come to me. I have talked the price down from $1500 to $1000 cash in hand.
The second is a 1997 CBR 600 F3 with 32k miles. It needs tires, and almost all the body need replacing, right mirror, seat recovered, and turn signals. I talks the price down from $1600 to $1200 cash in hand.
Both run. I am just afraid of the availability of aftermarket body parts for the GSXR being a '91. Just the steering damper alone for the GSXR OEM is $550. There is almost nothing on eBay, and OEM costs way to much. I can get a whole body kit for the CBR for $300, painted. there is also a ton of parts for it on eBay and mass amount of aftermaket part from various dealers.. Also the '91 gixxer weighs a ton, 516lbs as opposed to the the '97 CBR's 409 lbs.
I am 32, 6'3 and weigh 210lbs and have moderate riding skills. My last bike was a '85 VFR700F Interceptor and before that a '77 Suzuki GS 750, my first bike. This bike will be a daily rider used to commute to work in town and some trips out of town when work permits. I realize that the responses may be a little biased asking on a CBR forum, but I hope you will all try to be as unbiased as possible.
I am mainly worried about upkeep costs and reliability along with the availability and cost of parts.
Thank you for any feedback.
The first is a 1991 GSXR 750 with 28k miles. It need a front fairing, turn signals, steering damper, left mirror, center piece for the lower cowl, tires, and some repairs to the lower cowls both sides, and speedo needle is broke off. Also it needs a new lock cylinder for the gas tank since the ignition key doesn't fit it, but local locksmith will do it for $60 if I bring it in $120 if they come to me. I have talked the price down from $1500 to $1000 cash in hand.
The second is a 1997 CBR 600 F3 with 32k miles. It needs tires, and almost all the body need replacing, right mirror, seat recovered, and turn signals. I talks the price down from $1600 to $1200 cash in hand.
Both run. I am just afraid of the availability of aftermarket body parts for the GSXR being a '91. Just the steering damper alone for the GSXR OEM is $550. There is almost nothing on eBay, and OEM costs way to much. I can get a whole body kit for the CBR for $300, painted. there is also a ton of parts for it on eBay and mass amount of aftermaket part from various dealers.. Also the '91 gixxer weighs a ton, 516lbs as opposed to the the '97 CBR's 409 lbs.
I am 32, 6'3 and weigh 210lbs and have moderate riding skills. My last bike was a '85 VFR700F Interceptor and before that a '77 Suzuki GS 750, my first bike. This bike will be a daily rider used to commute to work in town and some trips out of town when work permits. I realize that the responses may be a little biased asking on a CBR forum, but I hope you will all try to be as unbiased as possible.
I am mainly worried about upkeep costs and reliability along with the availability and cost of parts.
Thank you for any feedback.
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RE: Need advice fast, making purchace in the morning.
go honda, its much newer, and only $200 more. Just to say something about the GSXR, from what i know,a steering dampener is not something that you need, but an aftermarket part to help prevent tankslappers (an expensive part at that).
besides, if you buy the zuki then you have to join a gixxxxer forum and we cant have that now can we
besides, if you buy the zuki then you have to join a gixxxxer forum and we cant have that now can we
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RE: Need advice fast, making purchace in the morning.
Well. Even though the f3 is more you would put more money into fixing the GSXR. And it would be way more fun to buy a bike that you can ride soon. Not look at it beat to hell in your garage. Just pick up some ebay plastics for the f3. my friend got a painted set for $400 shipped. they might not line up like OEM. But you will probably slide it and rash it.
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RE: Need advice fast, making purchace in the morning.
having experience with both these bikes the f3 is a much better choice 100% .
you can recover your seat for 20 yourself.tires are gonna cost you, mirrors are like 25 new aftermarket ones (endergo? something like that) turn signals aftermarket like 20-30 bucks. and the body work can even be fixed yourself depending on howbad it is.
now important questions... any problems with the charging system, which components has he replaced already ? (battery, stator, regulator/rectifier) any rust on the swing arm or the chain tensioners... also can noise from the cct ? (chain cam tensioner, usually around 3-5k rpm loud buzzing noise) how does it run ? does it idle correctly ? any frame damage since you said all the body work needs to be replaced?
The second is a 1997 CBR 600 F3 with 32k miles. It needs tires, and almost all the body need replacing, right mirror, seat recovered, and turn signals. I talks the price down from $1600 to $1200 cash in hand.
now important questions... any problems with the charging system, which components has he replaced already ? (battery, stator, regulator/rectifier) any rust on the swing arm or the chain tensioners... also can noise from the cct ? (chain cam tensioner, usually around 3-5k rpm loud buzzing noise) how does it run ? does it idle correctly ? any frame damage since you said all the body work needs to be replaced?
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RE: Need advice fast, making purchace in the morning.
ynks4evr - go honda, its much newer, and only $200 more. Just to say something about the GSXR, from what i know,a steering dampener is not something that you need, but an aftermarket part to help prevent tankslappers (an expensive part at that).
dinez74 - The 750 is a bad *** bike but I don't feel comfortable of the age factor.
dinez74 - Better still to wait, save more cash and get a newer Honda.
jdschmidt - But you will probably slide it and rash it.
thrasher572 - The honda is a better choice for a daily driver. Also something simple like oil changes will be much much cheaper for the honda... the 91 gsxr is oil cooled so ittakes a lot more oil.
HAVOC - and the body work can even be fixed yourself depending on howbad it is.
HAVOC - now important questions... any problems with the charging system, which components has he replaced already ? (battery, stator, regulator/rectifier) any rust on the swing arm or the chain tensioners... also can noise from the cct ? (chain cam tensioner, usually around 3-5k rpm loud buzzing noise) how does it run ? does it idle correctly ? any frame damage since you said all the body work needs to be replaced?
Thank you for all the responses. I am pretty sure now I'll be getting the CBR, that polished chrome frame did look sweet on the GSXR, but it's not worth the cost to restore it.
EDIT: Oh yeah and I forgot to ask, is $1200 a fair price provided the engine is solid?
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RE: Need advice fast, making purchace in the morning.
The early GSXR's were fine bikes, but unless you have a full history on it, I'd avoid a bike that old.
I have no bias on the issue, my last rebuilds were a GPZ900R 1984, and a GSX1100E 1982, before that. My current bike's a CBR1000F 1990, bought 4 years ago from a friend, so I knew the history.(Had to be a Honda, or I wouldn't be here........)
My suggestion would be to look around some more, take your time, the F3's a good bike but sounds as though it's been hammered. Of the two choices, I'd go for the F3 because of Honda's build quality, and parts availability. Plenty of advice on the Forum on how to get it back to a great looking bike. The 600 section are experts, and helpful. Good luck.
I have no bias on the issue, my last rebuilds were a GPZ900R 1984, and a GSX1100E 1982, before that. My current bike's a CBR1000F 1990, bought 4 years ago from a friend, so I knew the history.(Had to be a Honda, or I wouldn't be here........)
My suggestion would be to look around some more, take your time, the F3's a good bike but sounds as though it's been hammered. Of the two choices, I'd go for the F3 because of Honda's build quality, and parts availability. Plenty of advice on the Forum on how to get it back to a great looking bike. The 600 section are experts, and helpful. Good luck.
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