How to fill up your vehicles
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How to fill up your vehicles
This from a friend in the industry..........................
Tips on Filling your Vehicles...
This is a Message received from a friend:
I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol... but here in Durban, we are also paying higher, . But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every litre.
Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline, where I work in Durban, we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.
One day is diesel; the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, LRP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 litres.
ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre.
In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
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WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
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middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.
Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount.
ANOTHER REMINDER, IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money.
DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS! LET’S SHARE INFORMATION AND BENEFIT ALL.
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Tips on Filling your Vehicles...
This is a Message received from a friend:
I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol... but here in Durban, we are also paying higher, . But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every litre.
Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline, where I work in Durban, we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.
One day is diesel; the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, LRP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 litres.
ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre.
In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
Compiled by Ramesh Patel on 16.03.2008 @ 10:00Hrs. Page 1 of 2
WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
Compiled by Ramesh Patel on 16.03.2008 @ 10:00Hrs. Page 2 of 2
middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.
Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount.
ANOTHER REMINDER, IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money.
DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS! LET’S SHARE INFORMATION AND BENEFIT ALL.
***********************
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I have a hard time believing any of this is significant enough to bother with.
people who have been in the oil industry generally dont type IN ALL CAPS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. In fact I don't know anyone who is 50+ years old *and thats on the low side* who talks that way.
people who have been in the oil industry generally dont type IN ALL CAPS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. In fact I don't know anyone who is 50+ years old *and thats on the low side* who talks that way.
The density of gasoline (C8H18) is roughly 0.694 g / cm^3 at 300*K (K = Kelvin) and roughly 0.622 g / cm^3 at 400*K. Density shouldn't change that much relative to the ground temperature (300*K = 80*F and 400*K is 260*F). So over a temperature range of 180 degrees, you are only changing about 0.072 g / cubic cm.
What does that look like in gallons? 1 Gal = 3785.4 cm^3. The change in density gives you 272.5488 more grams at 80* than 260*. End result is over that temperature range, you gain .6 pounds. About 6 pounds are in a gallon. Sounds insignificant to me.
The only one I would really take to heart is not filling up when a tanker as at the station. Even then, it isn't that big of a deal. Cars have fuel filters and I am sure stations and pumps do too. For good reason.
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.6/6 = 10%. 10% more gas is a HUGE difference.
Last edited by chuckbear; 04-13-2010 at 02:20 PM.
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agreed but on the last one i know a trucker and he said that once when he was filling up a tank he left the additive on for too long and put way too much in. thereby giving the vehicles that filled up there better gas mileage. it wasn't like an extra 10 mpg or anything but more like 3-5 mpg better than usual. don't ask me what the additive was cause i can't remember but he said that they add it at the station when they fill the tank up.
he coulda just been ****ting me too, i can't ever tell with this guy.
he coulda just been ****ting me too, i can't ever tell with this guy.
#10
.6/6 = 10%. 10% more gas is a HUGE difference.
That's nothing, and I'd be willing to bet that air temps outside won't change the temperature of in-ground tanks much (if at all) over the course of a day.
Above ground tanks? Certainly. In fact, when I fill my methanol tanks on a hot sunny day, I better leave some space in the tank for expansion or some dumb smoker could blow themselves to pieces.
But still probably not worth worrying about.... maybe a quart or two in 550gals.
I prefer to save money by buying one less beer per day or downgrading to a less expensive escort.