Found this on Myspace last night
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04-01-2008, 07:18 AM
RE: Found this on Myspace last night
I just want to get my two cents in....
During the 60's and 70's gun control laws were put in place in the US and crimes went up not down. Over the past 20 years all violent crime has dropped dramatically, in part because laws have spread that allow the carrying of concealed weapons by law-abiding citizens. Florida started this trend in 1987 and that with 5 other states, reflected an 8% reduction in murders, 7% reduction in aggravated assualts and 5% reduction in rapes. "Firearms-related crimes has plummeted" according to the US Bureau of Justice in 2004. One of the things criminals fear most is encountering the gun-toting owner.
In Britain, the impression that America is violent is deeply engrained. This completely disregards findings of the International Crime Victims Survey, where it sites that the level of violent crime in Britian is 3 times the level of the United States. Handgun crime in Britian has doubled over the past decade, since the banning of pistols and the confiscation of all the legal ones. In 1951, self-defense was the justification 3/4 of all applicants for a pistol license. Between 1946-51 armed robbery was the most significant measure of gun crime, ran at less than two dozen incidents a year in London; today, in the disarmed society, it's as many every week.
IMHO, Gun control doesn't work. It takes the ability for someone to defend themselves out of their hands and gives the less desireables a marked advantage. The mere legality of gun ownership is a deterent. The greatest fear of a criminal is encountering an armed owner. What fear does a criminal with an illegal firearm have if they knows that no one in society has the means to protect themselves?
I'm not saying that we don't have incidents, such as Columbine and Virginia Tech. $hit happens. You can't filter out ever single person and figure out if they are going to go off the deep end if pushed too hard. Keep in mind...though Columbine might be an exception since it was an High School...Virgina Tech was a gun free zone. No one there to stop it.
During the 60's and 70's gun control laws were put in place in the US and crimes went up not down. Over the past 20 years all violent crime has dropped dramatically, in part because laws have spread that allow the carrying of concealed weapons by law-abiding citizens. Florida started this trend in 1987 and that with 5 other states, reflected an 8% reduction in murders, 7% reduction in aggravated assualts and 5% reduction in rapes. "Firearms-related crimes has plummeted" according to the US Bureau of Justice in 2004. One of the things criminals fear most is encountering the gun-toting owner.
In Britain, the impression that America is violent is deeply engrained. This completely disregards findings of the International Crime Victims Survey, where it sites that the level of violent crime in Britian is 3 times the level of the United States. Handgun crime in Britian has doubled over the past decade, since the banning of pistols and the confiscation of all the legal ones. In 1951, self-defense was the justification 3/4 of all applicants for a pistol license. Between 1946-51 armed robbery was the most significant measure of gun crime, ran at less than two dozen incidents a year in London; today, in the disarmed society, it's as many every week.
IMHO, Gun control doesn't work. It takes the ability for someone to defend themselves out of their hands and gives the less desireables a marked advantage. The mere legality of gun ownership is a deterent. The greatest fear of a criminal is encountering an armed owner. What fear does a criminal with an illegal firearm have if they knows that no one in society has the means to protect themselves?
I'm not saying that we don't have incidents, such as Columbine and Virginia Tech. $hit happens. You can't filter out ever single person and figure out if they are going to go off the deep end if pushed too hard. Keep in mind...though Columbine might be an exception since it was an High School...Virgina Tech was a gun free zone. No one there to stop it.
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I'm takin some offence to this one also, mostlly because it's people like these "thugs" that give perfictlly legal guns a bad name. That "evil" TEC-9" is a very legal inaccurate POS that anyone (over 21) can own...in fact I own one myself. Unlike our thug buddie up there, I use mine for pleasure, not for intimidation. Not sure what other guns were on the site, but I doubt that they were fully-auto, if that were the case, all one would need to do is report them and the ATF would do the rest. Asshats like these "gangstas" take the air out of my arguements to stay away from gun control...so until they make our govt. ban them, I'm stockin up!
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04-01-2008, 09:04 AM
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Oh and Jules, I wasn't trying to belay your fear of guns. The fear of guns is rightfully justified. They are by design, dangerous. I was only stating a different viewpoint. Plus, the information I was quoting was out of "The Times", which, I believe is a British paper.
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04-01-2008, 09:10 AM
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Yeah, that's pretty stupid to show such a clear picture of your face with what would seem to be an automatic weapon. Of course, I guess he could say it was a water-pistol if asked about it. If you are determined to own automatic weapons, I think it would be best to keep that under wraps, lol. I guess that's why they're idiot criminals and I'm not.
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ORIGINAL: Ty
Yeah, that's pretty stupid to show such a clear picture of your face with what would seem to be an automatic weapon. Of course, I guess he could say it was a water-pistol if asked about it. If you are determined to own automatic weapons, I think it would be best to keep that under wraps, lol. I guess that's why they're idiot criminals and I'm not.
Yeah, that's pretty stupid to show such a clear picture of your face with what would seem to be an automatic weapon. Of course, I guess he could say it was a water-pistol if asked about it. If you are determined to own automatic weapons, I think it would be best to keep that under wraps, lol. I guess that's why they're idiot criminals and I'm not.
It is legal to own a full automatic weapon of course it has to be a pre-November weapon you must submit the proper paper work and obtain a stamp from the BATF and don't get me started on the two headed snake or how a division of the Treasury Department became this countries number one law enforcement group on control of firearms if you are even remotely interested do a stealthy search for a book titled Unintended Consequences it was written by the former number two man in the BATF after he retired and shortly before his death the book only got one production run. The publication rights to the book are owned by a third party ? Now
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RE: Found this on Myspace last night
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Isn't it funny how alcohol is responsible for so many deaths in the U.S. and tobacco kills so many citizens and firearms can be dangerous...it makes you think that the government really doesn't pay too much attention to the health and well being of its people but they simply want to profit from it.
I think if I were King, I would rethink if I want a bunch of people that are simply taxation specialists to be incharge of managing the ownership of machines whose main function is to make it easy to kill people. If you have the money you can go to one store and get a gun, then go get drunk, then shoot a few people and then have a cigarette to relax with. How efficient.
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04-01-2008, 10:11 AM
RE: Found this on Myspace last night
ORIGINAL: woo545
I just want to get my two cents in....
During the 60's and 70's gun control laws were put in place in the US and crimes went up not down. Over the past 20 years all violent crime has dropped dramatically, in part because laws have spread that allow the carrying of concealed weapons by law-abiding citizens. Florida started this trend in 1987 and that with 5 other states, reflected an 8% reduction in murders, 7% reduction in aggravated assualts and 5% reduction in rapes. "Firearms-related crimes has plummeted" according to the US Bureau of Justice in 2004. One of the things criminals fear most is encountering the gun-toting owner.
In Britain, the impression that America is violent is deeply engrained. This completely disregards findings of the International Crime Victims Survey, where it sites that the level of violent crime in Britian is 3 times the level of the United States. Handgun crime in Britian has doubled over the past decade, since the banning of pistols and the confiscation of all the legal ones. In 1951, self-defense was the justification 3/4 of all applicants for a pistol license. Between 1946-51 armed robbery was the most significant measure of gun crime, ran at less than two dozen incidents a year in London; today, in the disarmed society, it's as many every week.
IMHO, Gun control doesn't work. It takes the ability for someone to defend themselves out of their hands and gives the less desireables a marked advantage. The mere legality of gun ownership is a deterent. The greatest fear of a criminal is encountering an armed owner. What fear does a criminal with an illegal firearm have if they knows that no one in society has the means to protect themselves?
I'm not saying that we don't have incidents, such as Columbine and Virginia Tech. $hit happens. You can't filter out ever single person and figure out if they are going to go off the deep end if pushed too hard. Keep in mind...though Columbine might be an exception since it was an High School...Virgina Tech was a gun free zone. No one there to stop it.
I just want to get my two cents in....
During the 60's and 70's gun control laws were put in place in the US and crimes went up not down. Over the past 20 years all violent crime has dropped dramatically, in part because laws have spread that allow the carrying of concealed weapons by law-abiding citizens. Florida started this trend in 1987 and that with 5 other states, reflected an 8% reduction in murders, 7% reduction in aggravated assualts and 5% reduction in rapes. "Firearms-related crimes has plummeted" according to the US Bureau of Justice in 2004. One of the things criminals fear most is encountering the gun-toting owner.
In Britain, the impression that America is violent is deeply engrained. This completely disregards findings of the International Crime Victims Survey, where it sites that the level of violent crime in Britian is 3 times the level of the United States. Handgun crime in Britian has doubled over the past decade, since the banning of pistols and the confiscation of all the legal ones. In 1951, self-defense was the justification 3/4 of all applicants for a pistol license. Between 1946-51 armed robbery was the most significant measure of gun crime, ran at less than two dozen incidents a year in London; today, in the disarmed society, it's as many every week.
IMHO, Gun control doesn't work. It takes the ability for someone to defend themselves out of their hands and gives the less desireables a marked advantage. The mere legality of gun ownership is a deterent. The greatest fear of a criminal is encountering an armed owner. What fear does a criminal with an illegal firearm have if they knows that no one in society has the means to protect themselves?
I'm not saying that we don't have incidents, such as Columbine and Virginia Tech. $hit happens. You can't filter out ever single person and figure out if they are going to go off the deep end if pushed too hard. Keep in mind...though Columbine might be an exception since it was an High School...Virgina Tech was a gun free zone. No one there to stop it.