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#11
09-11-2009, 04:10 PM
#12
09-11-2009, 04:15 PM
I was in a shop when I heard it on the radio ... I thought it was some kind of
joke at first,some sort of hyperthetical "what if" situation being played out
because it could not be true ..it just could not!!
I ran home and put on the TV to see the most horrific pictures .........
The world did indeed change that day, because now anything goes ... before,
you always felt there was some kind of order, some honour and a line that
could/would not be crossed ... in just that one day everything, all unwritten
rules/codes went out the window and the world has felt less safe since then
... terrorism, we must never bow down or surrender to it ... treat it with the
contempt and evil that it surely is.....
may God rest their souls.........
joke at first,some sort of hyperthetical "what if" situation being played out
because it could not be true ..it just could not!!
I ran home and put on the TV to see the most horrific pictures .........
The world did indeed change that day, because now anything goes ... before,
you always felt there was some kind of order, some honour and a line that
could/would not be crossed ... in just that one day everything, all unwritten
rules/codes went out the window and the world has felt less safe since then
... terrorism, we must never bow down or surrender to it ... treat it with the
contempt and evil that it surely is.....
may God rest their souls.........
#13
09-11-2009, 05:55 PM
Wish we still mourned Pearl Harbor the way we do 9/11. We still bring it up but not as much as we should.
The Infamy Speech was delivered at 12:30 pm on December 8, 1941, by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, one day after the Empire of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor Naval Base, Hawaii.
This line is remembered the most.
Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 — a date which will live in infamy — the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.
I would suggest we not only remember 9/11 but what makes this entire country and through it the entire world great.
The people willing to sacrifice themselves to better the entire world.
The Infamy Speech was delivered at 12:30 pm on December 8, 1941, by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, one day after the Empire of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor Naval Base, Hawaii.
This line is remembered the most.
Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 — a date which will live in infamy — the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.
I would suggest we not only remember 9/11 but what makes this entire country and through it the entire world great.
The people willing to sacrifice themselves to better the entire world.
I'm not saying this because I don't respect the sacrifices that people make. Trust me on that... I'm currently missing my 2 best friends and my bf who are all over in Iraq. I'm just saying that unfortunately there comes a point in time where events enter the history books, and exist people's minds.
#14
09-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Senior Member & 2010 ROTY
“Time is passing. Yet, for the United States of America, there will be no forgetting September the 11th. We will remember every rescuer who died in honor. We will remember every family that lives in grief. We will remember the fire and ash, the last ...phone calls, the funerals of the children.“..President George W. Bush, November 11, 2001
#15
09-11-2009, 08:19 PM
Administrator - Retired
On 9/11/01, I was sitting in an International Relations class my sophomore year of college. The professor was in his mid sixties, and he also taught at the War College. He had seen a couple of wars already, and just after the first plane hit, he turned to me and said "That was no accident, Dylan".
It hit me like a ton of bricks. I've never had a feeling quite like it.
We walked outside and talked a bit while I smoked a cigarette, and at times we could hardly hear each other over the jets.
We walked back into the room just as they were showing the replays of the second plane hitting. The professor shook his head and dismissed the class.
Honestly, afterwards I was pretty pissed off. I felt helpless... like I should be doing something. Giving money to funds and chit wasn't cutting it. (although as a broke azz college kid, I wasn't giving much...)
I won't forget it, and my thoughts and prayers are with the families that are still very much feeling the pain of it today.
It hit me like a ton of bricks. I've never had a feeling quite like it.
We walked outside and talked a bit while I smoked a cigarette, and at times we could hardly hear each other over the jets.
We walked back into the room just as they were showing the replays of the second plane hitting. The professor shook his head and dismissed the class.
Honestly, afterwards I was pretty pissed off. I felt helpless... like I should be doing something. Giving money to funds and chit wasn't cutting it. (although as a broke azz college kid, I wasn't giving much...)
I won't forget it, and my thoughts and prayers are with the families that are still very much feeling the pain of it today.
#16
09-11-2009, 11:59 PM
Senior Member
I chose these words carefully.
It is my hope that unfettered, worldwide mass communication and the availability of information will breed the familiarity with one another, objectivity of perspective and a sort of ultimate homogeneity which will prevent the type of isolation and ignorance which allows self-destructive world views to become instilled in entire groups. We really do need to be one world, and pretty soon.
I know that may sound odd coming from a old conservative, but I have given it a lot of thought.
It is my hope that unfettered, worldwide mass communication and the availability of information will breed the familiarity with one another, objectivity of perspective and a sort of ultimate homogeneity which will prevent the type of isolation and ignorance which allows self-destructive world views to become instilled in entire groups. We really do need to be one world, and pretty soon.
I know that may sound odd coming from a old conservative, but I have given it a lot of thought.
#17
09-12-2009, 01:13 AM
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+1 for the thought Joe ...
I recon the reality is going to be a little bit far from exactly that though mate .....
I think that the world is lucky that I don't have the job to push the big red buttons .... when I saw that chit on 9-11 ....I without a doubt would have returned fire immediately with massive indiscriminate and totally destructive unmentionable bombs .... 6 well placed ones and that whole bloody unstable freaking region would have just been a bad memory in histories back pages...
I still today have a problem with the way we sacrifice even more good men and women on the ground from ALL over the world, to bring about some minor change in these regions , to begin to make them half civilized .....
Some places are just not worth bothering with ...
and I measure this very simply ... if I or anyone else cant put a back pack on and walk around those countries in relative safety ..... ****em ....remove - em from the risk list altogether I recon !!!
2010 coming up and some of these bastards are living in the 12 freakin century still ....
but then , as I said , I have not got that big red button pushing job , .... so I spose its Joe's thoughts that we will have to wish happens eventually ...
I recon the reality is going to be a little bit far from exactly that though mate .....
I think that the world is lucky that I don't have the job to push the big red buttons .... when I saw that chit on 9-11 ....I without a doubt would have returned fire immediately with massive indiscriminate and totally destructive unmentionable bombs .... 6 well placed ones and that whole bloody unstable freaking region would have just been a bad memory in histories back pages...
I still today have a problem with the way we sacrifice even more good men and women on the ground from ALL over the world, to bring about some minor change in these regions , to begin to make them half civilized .....
Some places are just not worth bothering with ...
and I measure this very simply ... if I or anyone else cant put a back pack on and walk around those countries in relative safety ..... ****em ....remove - em from the risk list altogether I recon !!!
2010 coming up and some of these bastards are living in the 12 freakin century still ....
but then , as I said , I have not got that big red button pushing job , .... so I spose its Joe's thoughts that we will have to wish happens eventually ...
Last edited by CBRclassic; 09-12-2009 at 01:39 AM.
#18
09-12-2009, 02:17 AM
Senior Member
Of course that is exactly how I, and most everyone I knew felt too. That's why we jumped into two wars. A very good female friend said at the time "I say we just turn all that sand into glass."
I agree with your evaluation of the level of sophistication.
One of the things that gives me hope is what happens to most societies when they see what the rest of the world is doing. Black market records and video tapes, and illegal/underground radio stations made the Russians want Beatles albums and Levi's. The west had great stuff, and they wanted it too. A government can't fight that forever. Eventually, the people get what they want. I would think that now with the Internet, that process can speed way up.
I keep hearing about the educated and liberal (for them) kids in Iran being a problem. Who doesn't want to ogle seriously good looking entertainers, play air guitar with rock stars and ride sport bikes? It's got to be just a matter of time. And a few real elections, a real opportunity to make a little money, and maybe even a few covert ops here and there, and the tide will start turning. The momentum will ultimately be irresistible.
I hope.
I agree with your evaluation of the level of sophistication.
One of the things that gives me hope is what happens to most societies when they see what the rest of the world is doing. Black market records and video tapes, and illegal/underground radio stations made the Russians want Beatles albums and Levi's. The west had great stuff, and they wanted it too. A government can't fight that forever. Eventually, the people get what they want. I would think that now with the Internet, that process can speed way up.
I keep hearing about the educated and liberal (for them) kids in Iran being a problem. Who doesn't want to ogle seriously good looking entertainers, play air guitar with rock stars and ride sport bikes? It's got to be just a matter of time. And a few real elections, a real opportunity to make a little money, and maybe even a few covert ops here and there, and the tide will start turning. The momentum will ultimately be irresistible.
I hope.
#19
09-12-2009, 03:30 AM
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I certainly hope you are right Joe .....a chit load of really GOOD young people will never see their kids they dreamed of having or have the pleasure of having some great times with their grand kids ....
I seriously hope you are right and that my Aussie kick freaking **** hard nose attitude is wrong ....
I just managed to miss the Vietnam chit myself by a whisker....
So I think about these good people today, still suffering by our decisions allot mate ....and I too only hope that they have not paided the ultimate price for zero ...
I seriously hope you are right and that my Aussie kick freaking **** hard nose attitude is wrong ....
I just managed to miss the Vietnam chit myself by a whisker....
So I think about these good people today, still suffering by our decisions allot mate ....and I too only hope that they have not paided the ultimate price for zero ...
Last edited by CBRclassic; 09-12-2009 at 05:05 AM.
#20
09-12-2009, 04:49 AM
