shifting
 

i'm wonding if it is good to shift the gear on my honda cbr 600rr from 2 to 5 without using the clucth(dont know if i spell it right). some people say its fine after you broken in your bike?

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Tone, Welcome !!!!!!! this topic has been discused... check archieves.
My take on it... NO !!!!!!!!! Use your clutch, it makes for a smoother, easier on the trany. I feel in the long run, people are loosening up there gear box, putting wear from extra stress on, shift forks, gear engagement dogs, chains( cam and drive) sprockets(both and cct), Rear hub cushions... It seems like a lot of unnesc. wear... for what reason???

Please all, If you post it "doesn't hurt anything" Please enlight'n me as to why you do it... shift w/ no clutch???? I've never read a reason why!!!!!!!!!! Clean and free, Ripp'n

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welcome and the general concensus (sp?) at the track is that using the clutch on upshifts (other than 1st-2nd) is unnecessary. I've been told many times that its better to not use the clutch as long as you do it properly, youve still got to let off the throttle to take pressure off the trans
I just bought a quickshifter for my track bike so I won't be using the clutch for upshifts very often from now on.

clutchless upshifting is also obviously easier on the clutch which in racing conditions is important (just ask Mladin and Nicky Hayden)

as for the actual reason, it improves lap times on the track either roadracing or drag racing, now if you don't have a quickshifter and have to let off the throttle it won't make a huge difference, maybe a 1/8 second per shift (random guess)

that said I won't be doing it on the street any time soon

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I like to use a little upward pressure on the shift lever followed by a corresponding slight drop in revs and a little clutch when I am in a hurry. Since I don't race my bike, the extra time saved getting to the grocery store is immaterial when compared to the cost of a tranny. I also believe that virtually all wear on the clutch is from starting from a stop or downshifting without a throttle blip, regular gear changes on a motor without much flywheel effect, at reasonably close to matching revs should not wear on a clutch at all.

Maybe the clutch isn't really needed if everything else is done perfectly, but I'd rather not take any risks with my tranny. However, clutchless shifting skills may come in handy if you ever lose your clutch or lever from a fall. I'd suggest you try it, but it is your choice if you want to make it a common practice on the street.

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thanks guys for your support and sorry if i didnt go back and check about shifting post

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Hello & Welcome!!:D

Would you shift gears in your car w/o the clutch? It's there for a reason!