why are harley guys assholes?
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05-17-2011, 06:15 PM
half of my lot kick with the left 
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05-21-2011, 06:37 AM
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I know a lot of 'Harley guys' around here, the prevalent motorcycle in this area, we 'crotch rocket' riders, as we are usually called, ("Is that one of them there crotch rockets?") are the minority.
All pretty good guys, even the ones flying colors. We joke ("do you run brown or white rice in that thing?") and one of the guys tell others in the group that my Hurricane makes his bike seem like it's only running on 2 cylinders.
One guys was following me on a pretty twisty road and of course I promptly left him behind. I had to wait 2 minutes for him to finally catch up to me, but the kool thing is, when he did finally catch up he said "man that thing can really take the curves can't it?"
So I can't lump all Harley riders as a**holes, sorry.
All pretty good guys, even the ones flying colors. We joke ("do you run brown or white rice in that thing?") and one of the guys tell others in the group that my Hurricane makes his bike seem like it's only running on 2 cylinders.
One guys was following me on a pretty twisty road and of course I promptly left him behind. I had to wait 2 minutes for him to finally catch up to me, but the kool thing is, when he did finally catch up he said "man that thing can really take the curves can't it?"
So I can't lump all Harley riders as a**holes, sorry.
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05-21-2011, 11:36 PM
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Many things can describe the differences between Hardly riders and so called Jap bike or pocket rocket riders ...
I believe it is not that Hadley riders are so much arsholes ,as that they tend to have a different mind set or " attitude " ...
Most Hardley riders seem to want to project the look and attitude of the rider more than the bike .... the Hardley is just the tool they use to achieve this ...
It is about them not the bike ...
Where as most Big bore Jap bike riders seem to be more interested in letting the world know how dam great there bike is and how good they think that they can ride it ....
I feel that we ( the Jap bike riders ) are way more bike oriented in our thinking rather than how tough , mean or wild we look to everyone that we come across on the roads ..
We , I think are way more of a motorcycle purist in our thinking ..
How our bike handles , accelerates , stops , corners ect ect ect ... and because Hardley do none of the above very well , those riders seem to extend a some what of a jealous and even at time's nasty attitude towards us ...
They know we are on the road for way more bike related good reasons than they are ....
Most of the time ,they can only sit there and try to look tough , while we go blasting by caring only about how great it feels to be in control of a real power house that feels under control , goes like hell , handles great in near any road situations and generally really commands the roads , not just the public eye !!!!!!!
Having said that , I see no reason to hang too much chit on Hardley riders while om on the road , as they are pretty harmless in the main ...
Usually they are just a blink in my mirrors as I go by , that cause me very little trouble ...
Live and let live as they say ...
I ride for all of my many purist reasons and they ride at a snails pace , covered in weird and wonderful black studs and pretty pictures , having a ball in there own way , trying to look the part and in some cases terrorize the other road users with there mean looks ....LOLOLOL
BTW .... not in all cases , but in a chit load of cases , those guys cannot ride in the true sense and could not keep a big Jap bike upright for more than a few miles before planting it and themselves into or off of the nearest bend in the road ...
I know some of you will argue with that last statement because you just happen to know one of the few Hardley riders that can ride ..... but please , spare me the rant , most of them cannot ride to save themselves compared with a good Jap bike rider ...
I believe it is not that Hadley riders are so much arsholes ,as that they tend to have a different mind set or " attitude " ...
Most Hardley riders seem to want to project the look and attitude of the rider more than the bike .... the Hardley is just the tool they use to achieve this ...
It is about them not the bike ...
Where as most Big bore Jap bike riders seem to be more interested in letting the world know how dam great there bike is and how good they think that they can ride it ....
I feel that we ( the Jap bike riders ) are way more bike oriented in our thinking rather than how tough , mean or wild we look to everyone that we come across on the roads ..
We , I think are way more of a motorcycle purist in our thinking ..
How our bike handles , accelerates , stops , corners ect ect ect ... and because Hardley do none of the above very well , those riders seem to extend a some what of a jealous and even at time's nasty attitude towards us ...
They know we are on the road for way more bike related good reasons than they are ....
Most of the time ,they can only sit there and try to look tough , while we go blasting by caring only about how great it feels to be in control of a real power house that feels under control , goes like hell , handles great in near any road situations and generally really commands the roads , not just the public eye !!!!!!!
Having said that , I see no reason to hang too much chit on Hardley riders while om on the road , as they are pretty harmless in the main ...
Usually they are just a blink in my mirrors as I go by , that cause me very little trouble ...
Live and let live as they say ...
I ride for all of my many purist reasons and they ride at a snails pace , covered in weird and wonderful black studs and pretty pictures , having a ball in there own way , trying to look the part and in some cases terrorize the other road users with there mean looks ....LOLOLOL
BTW .... not in all cases , but in a chit load of cases , those guys cannot ride in the true sense and could not keep a big Jap bike upright for more than a few miles before planting it and themselves into or off of the nearest bend in the road ...
I know some of you will argue with that last statement because you just happen to know one of the few Hardley riders that can ride ..... but please , spare me the rant , most of them cannot ride to save themselves compared with a good Jap bike rider ...
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As an American, I think it's a cryin' shame that we can't build in the modern day, a bike that give a 24 year old Hurricane a run for its money (without Jap parts). Even at 10 times the cost. Oh wait, their was that Buell attempt, but it's clear what happened to that idea. It's surprising we all aren't driving John Deere's to work (not that I'd mind).
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05-22-2011, 10:50 AM
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I'm sure we COULD do that, and even at a reasonable price, but just jumping into an industry that complex and knowledge intensive is not only prohibitively (literally) expensive, it is a GIGANTIC risk. Huge money on huge risk is hard to get together. Too imprudent for those with the cash. They like safer bets. I mean, just one embarrassing misstep up front and you kill the panache of your brand and become a joke, and then you die.
Oddly that's what Harley has going for it. Their brand is so strong and desirable, that there are no screw-up that can kill it. And honestly, since the new engine several years back they have a lot more power and reliability now. They're just cruisers. Different goal than a Closed Body Racer.
Oddly that's what Harley has going for it. Their brand is so strong and desirable, that there are no screw-up that can kill it. And honestly, since the new engine several years back they have a lot more power and reliability now. They're just cruisers. Different goal than a Closed Body Racer.
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05-22-2011, 11:21 AM
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"Most of the time ,they can only sit there and try to look tough , while we go blasting by caring only about how great it feels to be in control of a real power house that feels under control , goes like hell , handles great in near any road situations and generally really commands the roads , not just the public eye !!!!!!"
Whats fun to watch is when an HD tries to out run you. I have had these guys come up then use both sides of a four lane (two each way) to pass at speed on a mountain road..
At that point I just let them go. ok You win, I only want to be an observer when you get caught 'out there'. I happen to know I can run a 90 -100 all day and my bike feels like it's just cruising.Makes me sing inside my helmet.Only thing I have to be concerned with is gasoline,I need a break before it does.
I'm one of those people that will speak when I pass any person, if they don't speak back, no biggie. Same with the wave,I'll wave out of pure joy at someone I think is having a similar experience. Don't wave back? no biggie,doesn't affect my thing at all.You're a tough guy (?) I've known some real tough guys(and girls) in my decadent upbringing.My oldest daughter is married to an ex-Navy seal. Nicest guy you could meet. In all of it, life is a performance industry.Aint about the noise you make.Specific to this thread, our bikes win,no problem.
Whats fun to watch is when an HD tries to out run you. I have had these guys come up then use both sides of a four lane (two each way) to pass at speed on a mountain road..
At that point I just let them go. ok You win, I only want to be an observer when you get caught 'out there'. I happen to know I can run a 90 -100 all day and my bike feels like it's just cruising.Makes me sing inside my helmet.Only thing I have to be concerned with is gasoline,I need a break before it does.I'm one of those people that will speak when I pass any person, if they don't speak back, no biggie. Same with the wave,I'll wave out of pure joy at someone I think is having a similar experience. Don't wave back? no biggie,doesn't affect my thing at all.You're a tough guy (?) I've known some real tough guys(and girls) in my decadent upbringing.My oldest daughter is married to an ex-Navy seal. Nicest guy you could meet. In all of it, life is a performance industry.Aint about the noise you make.Specific to this thread, our bikes win,no problem.
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I have found in around 35 years of motorcycling and owning all nationalities of bikes, that the HD riders with attitudes are not the 1%ers, but weekend riders and wanna-bes. They have no real knowledge of the sport and live through a false idea of badassedness. Real bikers, patch holders, etc. Usually don't mess with you unless you give them ****. They understand the two wheel thing. Funny thing, sometimes the wanna be badasses just sold a small Asian bike to get a "real" motorsikle. Same guys who make fun of Sportsters as girls bike, when that bike has the only real race history after WWII..........