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Old 08-12-2009, 11:59 PM
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Got sent these pics this morning. Couldn't believe it! Also is the blurb that came too. There were some captions too (presumably by someone who doesn't ride) , but I failed to see the humour in them so didn't attach them. Don't know how old they are, you might have seen them already.




The Honda rider was travelling at such a 'very high speed', his reaction
time was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident.
Swedish Police estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h (155 mph)
before the bike hit the slow moving car side-on at an
intersection. At that speed, they predicted that the rider's
reaction time (once the vehicle came into view) wasn't
sufficient enough for him to even apply the brakes. The car
had two passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the
car with them. The Volkswagen actually flipped over
from the force of impact and landed 10 feet from where
the collision took place.



All three involved (two in car and rider) were killed instantly. This graphic
demonstration was placed at the Stockholm
Motorcycle Fair by the Swedish Police and Road Safety Department.
The sign above the display also noted that the rider
had only recently obtained his license.



At 250 KM (155 mph) the operator is travelling at 227 feet per
second. With normal reaction time to SEE-DECIDE-REACT of 1.6
seconds the above operator would have travelled over 363
feet while making a decision on what actions to take. In
this incident the Swedish police indicate that no
actions were taken.
 

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Old 08-13-2009, 12:15 AM
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Owner was 18 as I recall, and had his license for 6 weeks I heard.
He punted the car about 25 meters and rolled it with the impact......
About 4 years ago mefinks, but a good reminder.........
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 06:11 AM
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That's bloody awful, I'm pretty sure that could have been most of us at 18! 225' per second and 363' to actually do something really makes you think.
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:04 AM
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Wow....
Definately a reminder to slow the hell down.
Dam shame..
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:54 AM
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Yeah a very sober reminder that .

While our bikes do go like rockets , they do in-fact , become low flying missiles !

Tragic for all concerned , car driver may not have seen the bike or misjudged the speed . Stupid kid riding , going far too fast for the conditions , but then who in truth is not a little bit guilty of that at one time or another , especially when younger ?

I guess everybody's luck ran out at the same time , in the same place
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 06:14 PM
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Crazy pictures

I was explaining the whole reaction time and feet per seconds to a non-rider the other day... and how track riding is all about finding markers. I was explaining that I don't wait to the mark to do the action, but like a musician there is a natural timing to the whole thing, so that you aren't waiting for the bass drum to sound before you start your next bar, but you know when the bass drum will be hit so you can hit the same mark yourself.

Made more sense yesterday.

Simply put - at high speeds you can not manage on reaction alone. On the track you have your markers and your natural timing that is LEARNED through repetition.

Even me a relative newb can hit lap after lap of the same time because - I'm listening to the same "music" - same markers - same turn in - same brakes - same gear... it's all the same.

On the street - track riding has ruined me. There is no natural time and suddenly slow speeds feel awkward and out of _relatively_ out of control. Suddenly having to react to a corner or a car, instead of simply acting.

Long story not cut short - slow the hell down
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:51 PM
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:04 PM
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I used to do those sort of speeds often when I was 20ish . Normally though, I'd go up the middle lane of the M4 at 3.00am when nobody was around. Dead smooth, no side streets, lights and no speed cameras. No wonder so many of us don't make it...my poor mum! I nearly drove her nuts with worry, but couldn't see anything wrong. It must just be the way we're wired or something. These days I think of the wife and kids and have pulled my head way in! I think all new riders should see those sort of pictures and have the distances versus reaction time explained to them, and shown to them on real roads. It's no good just learning braking distances from 30mph, 50mph etc. to pass some dumb written test! Sorry, I'm starting to rant.. I better p!ss off and calm down..
 
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:28 PM
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it looks like an advert for speeding,, the roof hasn't been cut off, whats the chances like,, it looks to 'set-up'

spoof i say
 


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