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Bwood 09-09-2018 05:15 PM

Omg do I need help !
 
ok, here goes- I hate to be that dude but it looks like I am. Who could screw up changing spark plugs?
i just bought an 06 cbr1000rr in mint condition, the guy barely rode it and it had 7000 miles.
The bike had slight hesitation in the low r’s so I first checked the filters- a little dirty but ok. So then I get new plugs.
pull the bike apart (not the easiest of jobs) pull the first and second plugs and replace them, no problem.
Then I get to the third- pull the boot, put the plug in the socket and start to lower it into the head- plug slips out of the socket on the way down! No big deal right? So I continue down w the socket, turn it and feel it slip down onto the plugs nut. Start turning it to begin instal- plug just turns- then I try to retrieve the plug and it won’t come up. Use my finger then a magnetic tool- plug won’t come up. The plug is stuck in there but on what? I’ve tried for an hour and a half to no success.
Wtf???
any ideas?

tentacleslap 09-10-2018 10:04 AM

If you can't reach it with your fingers you could probably try with longnosed pliers, or even a pick to try and keep some tension on it while unthreading. Unfortunately you won't know what it's caught on until it's out - hopefully not an improperly installed helicoil or something like that. If you're worried something may be cracked, you can try and get a camera on it, but if it's messed up, it's not gonna get any better until the plug is out, so one way or the other, it's gotta come back out

As a 'hindsight is always 20/20' kind of guy, I'm gonna recommend always starting a plug by hand. Never with a ratchet. Crossthreading a sparkplug can be a very costly mistake. If you can't get your fingers on it, one journeyman's trick is to get a bit of gob and stick it to the edge of the socket, then it'll hold the sparkplug in place while you use your fingers to turn the extension by hand until the first few threads are in. Then you can get a ratchet on it

Just make sure never to use a gob that'll harden up. That'll wreck the job for next time. Years ago I pinched a good-sized stash off the inside of a door and my 10mm socket is still coated black from the number of times I used it to start those cursed door handle nuts. It's a good trick for any fastener you can't see/reach easily

Hope that helps

hamlin6 09-10-2018 10:27 AM

I have also used a wad of electrical tape in the socket to hold the plug. The best practice (IMO) is to use a socket that has the insert in it to hold the plug. It may be a single use tool, but the frustration it saves pays for itself with a single use.

Bwood 09-10-2018 03:16 PM

Guys,
thank you so much for the help. The plug came out this morning with a ton of prodding- I have no idea what was or had gone on. I do use the grease around the nut of the plug to hold it in but this one got away- I’ve also used the electrical tape and always use the socket w the rubber insert. To be safe and in search of answers I used a makita camera snake to inspect for debris and or damage- all looks well. I even went so far as to duct tape a 1/4” hose into my dyson vacuum hose and stuck the 1/4” down inside to suck up and possible contamination.
this one scared the bejesus out of me to be sure! All I could think of was damage to the threads means pull the motor and rebuild- WOW!

crappy feeling but all seems well, I’m replacing the plug as a precaution and the store won’t have the new one till tomorrow but I put a plug in that cylinder to be sure all seems well.
i will take the advice about always starting a plug by hand, that’s common sense I lacked 😆

here she is- an 06! Mint. !! Can you believe it !

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/cbrforu...fbf428d2f.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/cbrforu...e8f8c8c843.png

boredandstroked 09-14-2018 07:24 PM

Besides the brake lever thats really nice. Did it run better with the plugs?

Bwood 09-14-2018 07:46 PM

DUDE !!! You just trashed my levers !!! LOL . Yeah I hated them at first but they’ve actually grown on me. Now I won’t even mention the cheesy skull and fire tank protector that WAS on it !
Yeah, the plugs made a HUGE difference, the bikes a beast. Like I said earlier, it hesitated in the low r’s and I could feel it surge on the highway. My first ride after the plugs I took off and the rear wheel spun then when I hit second the front came up without intention.
My other bike is a 00 zx9 in mint condition and there’s a big difference.
The guy chromed the wheels and put the carbon jardine slip on on it. He installed a really nice light kit that really shows off the chrome. I put a light kit under the tail lighting up the carbon exhaust.. everywhere I go strangers either want to talk about it or give it admiration. It’s cool.
my other Honda was a white vfr- beautiful bike also.
thanks for the time and consideration w my problem and I’m glad to be part of the cbr forum. I’m keeping the levers !!😎

Man, to top it all off I got the bike for $3800 !!

ceebeeaarguy 09-15-2018 05:37 AM

Beautiful bike mate. This and the 954 are the sexiest iterations of the fireblade line!

Hawkwind2016 09-17-2018 05:11 AM

She's a beauty!

What's that thing on the swingarm?

Bwood 09-17-2018 07:59 AM


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/cbrforu...da634590b0.png
This is it
Thanks hawk, loving it !! The thing on the swing arm is a license plate mount. If installed properly it puts half the plates view inside the rear tire, cops cameras don’t scan it.


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