Explanation needed regarding valve clearance and compression
hello. i have a question :)
in my friend's CBR we checked and cleaned the carbs several times, checked all the electrical+ignition system several times and they were all in specs according to the manual. but he gets a dry carbon foul in all four plugs and his fuel consumption is way lower than mine. so my question is, can a bad valve clearance or a low compression cause a dry carbon foul in all 4 plugs? if so can some one explain how it happens please. i googled it many times but couldn't find a specific explanation for it. but they all suspect compression and valve clearance for the dry carbon fouling (assuming that the carb and the ignition system have been confirmed OK). thank you very much. |
Would suggest doing a compression test to put your mind at ease,are you running the right size needles and jets, float height , is the bike blowing smoke from the exhaust, and which CBR is it
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Originally Posted by CaBaRet
(Post 1308843)
Would suggest doing a compression test to put your mind at ease,are you running the right size needles and jets, float height , is the bike blowing smoke from the exhaust, and which CBR is it
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Sounds like you may have a rich condition. Is the choke or enrichners returning properly.
One thing that can cause a rich condition is a restricted air intake. Is you air filter dirty? Have you checked the air box to see if a small 4-legged friend has made a home in there? |
Originally Posted by TimBucTwo
(Post 1308848)
Sounds like you may have a rich condition. Is the choke or enrichners returning properly.
One thing that can cause a rich condition is a restricted air intake. Is you air filter dirty? Have you checked the air box to see if a small 4-legged friend has made a home in there? air box is clean. no dirt or any strange objects there. it has a brand new OEM air filter and a new sub filter. forgot to say that his exhaust is also an OEM one. thank you. |
Valve timing and clearances are the gatekeeper for air/fuel in the engine. If that is off, then you're fighting a losing battle. Start with checking your valve clearances on a stone cold engine (meaning room temperature for where ever you are). Don't attempt to do it on an engine that has been run at all within the last several hours.
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Originally Posted by IDoDirt
(Post 1309038)
Valve timing and clearances are the gatekeeper for air/fuel in the engine. If that is off, then you're fighting a losing battle. Start with checking your valve clearances on a stone cold engine (meaning room temperature for where ever you are). Don't attempt to do it on an engine that has been run at all within the last several hours.
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Originally Posted by cbrbike
(Post 1309053)
thank you very much. i'll check the valve clearance :)
Also you need to be sure exactly what 'slight drag' is.IN my case I could never decide if the drag is slight or too much. So much so that I recently got the clearances checked at a garage (I reshimmed it myself 5k miles ago). They are all within specs thank God! Also this would be the perfect time to get your starter valves synced. Do it just after you do your clearances. |
Originally Posted by ceebeeaarguy
(Post 1309089)
ensure that the engine is tone cold -preferably let it cool overnight and then do it . Also I'd suggest get 2 feeler gauges to eliminate any possibility of wrong readings due gauge manufacturing defects. Remember every mm counts here.
Also you need to be sure exactly what 'slight drag' is.IN my case I could never decide if the drag is slight or too much. So much so that I recently got the clearances checked at a garage (I reshimmed it myself 5k miles ago). They are all within specs thank God! Also this would be the perfect time to get your starter valves synced. Do it just after you do your clearances. |
Originally Posted by cbrbike
(Post 1308842)
so my question is, can a bad valve clearance or a low compression cause a dry carbon foul in all 4 plugs?
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