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mtor9477 Jun 2, 2005 01:50 PM

1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
Hey guys,

I have a 97' CBR600F3 w/ just a K&N air filter. My battery died on the freeway going at about 65mph and I brought the bike to a stop without pulling in the clutch. Changed the battery and couldn't get it started. Figured I may have fouled the plugs. Changed the plugs with OEM NGK's and still no luck. It won't start! Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

~Mark

05Tribal Jun 2, 2005 04:23 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
As you know you need spark, gas and air for an engine to run. Are you sure it is getting gas? The reason I ask such basic question is that I've never heard of a battery going dead just after it started a vehicle, assuming you did start your bike electrically and didn't jump start it. What indicatios did you get that makes you think the battery died while going 65? I don't think pulling over with out releasing the clutch would do anything because it would not effect gas flow to the cylinders.

mtor9477 Jun 2, 2005 06:57 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
The battery was on it's last life (few years old) and was charged enough just to get on the road. I know, I know, stupid, but I did it. One thing I didn't do when changing out the plugs was airing the cylinders out (may have been flooded), and checking for spark at each cyclinder before putting them back in. I'll do that tonight and see what happens.

Thanks for the reply!

chainstretcher Jun 2, 2005 07:47 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
You're on the right track -- check for spark and make sure it's getting gas. Maybe try replacing the fuel filter. Start with anything easy/cheap and move up from there.

mtor9477 Jun 3, 2005 02:12 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
Well, tried to get'er started last night w/ no luck. Removed the plugs, the 1st cylinder (one on drivers far left when sitting on the bike) was a bit fouled and wet. Checked for spark and all work. Sprayed some Engine Starter fluid in all cylinders and let them dry out. Torqued the plugs back and it almost started at first crank but then just kept hesitating. I haven't checked the fuel filter but don't think it's the problem. Gonna replace it anyway. Any other ideas?

vbh289 Jun 3, 2005 11:01 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
New plugs man, mine wouldn't get above ten, then died and wouldn't start... would almost but couldn't quite get the job done. replaced the plugs and one crank, it started and now runs awsome... now if the wind would stop blowing

mtor9477 Jun 7, 2005 09:49 AM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
Bike still not running, but here's what I've tried so far:

Replaced battery, plugs, and fuel filter(was somewhat dirty). Checked all fuses and are ok. Check for spark and plugs and it's all good.

Here's the strange thing... Checked the fuel pump by releasing it from the rubber supports, dipped the inlet into a gas container and cranked the engine to see if the pump was spitting anything out. Nothing! The solenoid works because I can here it click on and off with key on and key off. No flow though. Has anyone tested the pump this way before? Should it be pumping fuel out quickly when cranking the engine?

vbh289 Jun 7, 2005 12:08 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
when the bike is on, it should be pumping for all its worth getting the lines pressurized. Take it and try sticking it in a can or gas and see if it is sucking at all. You sir may have found your problem... Good luck!

mtor9477 Jun 7, 2005 01:32 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
vbh289, btw, I have the same color bike you do. Rare, in my opinion.

Anyway, spoke to 2 techs from 2 different Honda repair shops and they both said that to test the pump I would have to connect the pump directly to the battery 12V leads. Why can't you test it while it's hooked up normally to the bike? That's what i did. I left the pump electrically connect but disconnected the inlet and outlet tubes and dipped the inlet into a gas canister to test. Cranked the engine and nothing happened. The solenoid opened and closed though. I'm confused....

vbh289 Jun 7, 2005 08:57 PM

RE: 1997 CBR600F3 Not able to start, need help!
 
Yea, I agree, I say its semi rare, have never seen one the same color, save yours;)...

As for the fuel pump, how much are they? go get one man, I say that this one seems bad from what you have discribed. If I knew more about it, that might help but you are right there, it isn't pumping, and for those kind of goods you can always return it if it doesn't fix the problem. But still, I say 75% that its the pump, it isn't getting fuel, and from what you have tested, that pump isn't helping.


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