Selling a bike: A morals and ethics debate
So I've not been active on the form for quite a while. Long story short, medical issues have prevented me from being able to ride either of my motorcycles for the last 2 seasons. Tough decision, but I've decided to sell both of the bikes.
To make a long story short, a young man and his father came and wanted to buy my F4i. I didn't fully understand the situation until after they looked at the bike and made what was a very fair offer (just under my craigslist asking price and honestly exactly what I was hoping to get when I put that as the asking price) and the conversation turned to how they would get the bike home. Turns out the young man was "turning 18" and had never ridden a motorcycle or dirt bike. No MC license, never taken the rider course. Even more disturbing, the father (who I guess was funding this endeavor? Was just along to make sure the kid didn't get screwed over buying a bike with no title? ) had absolutely no experience with motorcycles. I asked the dad if he understood that this was a sport bike capable of going 150 mph, if the kid had a helmet, if he was planning on taking the rider course or if they even knew the process for getting a motorcycle license (I was left with the impression that they were totally unaware that there was a special license required for driving a motorcycle). I explained that this really wasn't a beginner bike and that I wasn't comfortable selling it to someone who didn't even have a motorcycle license or any riding experience. They left (angry) and I just wonder what other people think. |
It's your bike friend, do what you want to with it. Personally I think you did the responsible thing. It's better to have a dad mad at you than possibly crying over his son while he is in the ER or in a casket.
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I would have sold it to them. It's not really your place to decide what's best for them. Your responsibility lies with providing a sound machine and disclosure of any known mechanical issues.
Call them back and apologize, then take the money. Of course, refer him to our pages..... |
Originally Posted by 74demon
(Post 1304361)
I would have sold it to them. It's not really your place to decide what's best for them. Your responsibility lies with providing a sound machine and disclosure of any known mechanical issues.
Call them back and apologize, then take the money. Of course, refer him to our pages..... |
Originally Posted by dorklord
(Post 1304364)
Serious question, would you tell them they've got to come pick the bike up with a trailer because you're not going to teach them how to ride a bike in the driveway?
If they are local and you feel like getting involved, you could ride it to their house and have them give you a ride back, or have someone else pick you up. That's how I got my first bike home.... |
If this was an off road bike (and going to be used as one), even a powerful 450, I would have sold it no problem.
If it was my bike, I would not have sold it to these two. Innocent people could be effected by me wanting a sale and that's just not justifiable in my book. |
Wes, you raise a salient point. If an inexperienced person buys an offroad bike, they pretty well are just going to hurt themselves. The same person on a street bike has the capacity to hurt others as well.
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You have to do what you think is right.
I sold my 2003 ZX-636 to a complete novice. They asked very basic questions about the bike. It was obvious they had little or no riding experience. They bought the bike without riding it. I was a little uneasy about selling it to them, but they had cash and paid the asking price. He loaded it into the back of his pickup and drove away. I have no idea what happened to him or the bike after they drove away with it. I hope both survived the learning experience, but don't know. |
Originally Posted by Matt-954
(Post 1304381)
You have to do what you think is right.
I sold my 2003 ZX-636 to a complete novice. They asked very basic questions about the bike. It was obvious they had little or no riding experience. They bought the bike without riding it. I was a little uneasy about selling it to them, but they had cash and paid the asking price. He loaded it into the back of his pickup and drove away. I have no idea what happened to him or the bike after they drove away with it. I hope both survived the learning experience, but don't know. I think for me it wasn't just that they were inexperienced, it was the attitude they had about it... |
You did the right thing. Sucks to have a concience (sp) right? Ignorance is all to common nowadays. Sounds like those two were full of it.
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