Installed new SLIPON. Bike Acts strange
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RE: Installed new SLIPON. Bike Acts strange
You can just load the map for another slip that is close.
Scorpion isn't listed either. I just mess around with other maps until I find one that's close. If you load a map and find a rough spot, you can play with the fueling at that spot to smooth it out. It's not going to be as accurate as a dyno tuned map, but it will work fine.
I am not going to bother to have a map done for mine until I get a full system.
Scorpion isn't listed either. I just mess around with other maps until I find one that's close. If you load a map and find a rough spot, you can play with the fueling at that spot to smooth it out. It's not going to be as accurate as a dyno tuned map, but it will work fine.
I am not going to bother to have a map done for mine until I get a full system.
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RE: Installed new SLIPON. Bike Acts strange
Stock, these bikes are tuned for a certain map, with known variables like back pressure. The computer doesn't change when you change the components. Playing around with the exhaust and intake and changing the pressures even 1-2 psi makes a huge difference. You def need to get a PCIII and reprogram, otherwise you could do some damage in the long run. Ie bike running way too hot.
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RE: Installed new SLIPON. Bike Acts strange
Am I the only one that wonders why change from stock? Seems like after you spend $350 on a slip-on you gotta spend another $350 on a power commander to make it work right and god forbid you gotta get dyno time then its another $350, in the end you gain maybe 8 HP for $1000 bucks. Then again if you skip the PC you risk leaning out your mixtures and putting holes in your pistons.
Great, now you got a loud bike that the cops are always looking at, a noisy 600cc bike that the liter bike guys laugh at, and a right ear that is always ringing.
Whatever the case, I hope you get your bike running the way you want.
Great, now you got a loud bike that the cops are always looking at, a noisy 600cc bike that the liter bike guys laugh at, and a right ear that is always ringing.
Whatever the case, I hope you get your bike running the way you want.
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RE: Installed new SLIPON. Bike Acts strange
Alright... how fuel injection works in general is you have a number of sensors and a matrix that is the combination of the values to create a response to the current situation.
Fuel injection can correct for small changes by reducing/increasing fuel-air ratio. When you change the pipe you change the whole system so that the mapping isn't optimal.
Using a powercommander you can override the stock matrix (or map if you prefer) to one that works with the new variables... in this case you changed the flow rate of the exhaust. You aren't changing the keys in the matrix, only the values for a set of keys - ie - changing the response to a situation to have a different air to fuel ratio.
So - the correct solution to a new pipe for a FI bike is to change the matrix... it's not that complicated but the same as tuning a carbed bike -- all bikes are different my map might not work for you, and the only way to get a map done properly is to get it done yourself on a dyno...
The rest of the mods you want to do - pipe, air filter, fuel pump mods... they all change what the keys in the matrix mean - if you do that you need to change the values... or in other words, create or use a different map.