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Default How do you warm up your tires now that it's a bit colder?

Ok, i haven't had the bike too long so i'm asking instead of having to find out the hard way.

During the warmer days i usually roll down my driveway, and then weave back and forth from my house to the main road. Mind you i have about 1/2 mile of straight road for me to do this. i would say i get close to about 40 in-out weaves. But now that its colder, should i just ride around in a few circles and then do the weaving. or not do the weaving and just ride in circles till the tire warms up. But just because the tire is warm in the middle, i know that the outside is not as warm as the middle, i can feel it when i touch it. So i'm afraid that the tire will be too cold and give out when i'm weaving in-out pretty quickly. Obviously i'm not weaving in-out as fast as i do on the warmer days. So what do you guys do to warm up your tires and what is recommended?? I mean i saw tire warmers, but they're too expensive and i think are unecessary...THANKS A BUNCH!!!
 
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Weaving does nothing for warming up your tires. The only way to warm up your tires is with friction. Hard braking and hard acceleration is what warms up your tires.
 
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Weaving does nothing for warming up your tires. The only way to warm up your tires is with friction. Hard braking and hard acceleration is what warms up your tires.
umm....don't wanna be mean, but last time i checked, friction is created by two surfaces making contact with one another. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. and Oh, braking will NOT warm up your tires unless you are skidding to a stop which is not a good way to stop. Even so, it only warms up the middle. Hard acceleration will NOT warm up the tires unless you are doing a burn out, which in this case will also warm up the middle. They do nothing for the sides wher yo uare going to make a turn
 
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just ride.... know what your rideing on....they will warm up....
 
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K Canadian here, I took my bike out for a spin around the block today. It was cold and I NEED new tires, I came around a corner slowly and gave it a bit of gas and holy crap the back tire just started spinning on me, scared the **** outta me I think it was a sign so now its put up for the winter, why risk it?
 
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Do`nt wanna cause a big debate but braking DOES warm your tyres, your asking them to work to stop the bike = friction = warm up.
 
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ORIGINAL: abadfish

Weaving does nothing for warming up your tires. The only way to warm up your tires is with friction. Hard braking and hard acceleration is what warms up your tires.
umm....don't wanna be mean, but last time i checked, friction is created by two surfaces making contact with one another. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. and Oh, braking will NOT warm up your tires unless you are skidding to a stop which is not a good way to stop. Even so, it only warms up the middle. Hard acceleration will NOT warm up the tires unless you are doing a burn out, which in this case will also warm up the middle. They do nothing for the sides wher yo uare going to make a turn
Where'd you get your information???? You are greatly misinformed and I hope that doesn't lead to you crashing.

What I said before is common knowledge among racers and trackday riders.

Here is an article that was on Roadracing World. I don't have the actual link but here is a quote from the article (as posted on another board):

[quote]ORIGINAL: Road Racing World article from about 1999 or so.

Weaving Makes For Good Collisions By Dave Swarts

Weaving to warm tires is a fiction that just won't die. All sorts of
riders who should know better can be seen weaving wildly on warm-up
laps, and we've seen plenty of collisions and near-misses caused by one
guy weaving into another guy on a warm-up lap. Yet some riders persist
in the belief that weaving actually does something other than create a
hazard. So, since we had gathered a test bike, a test rider, all sorts
of measuring instruments, some extra tires, and had a track to ourselves
for our big tire test (Roadracing World, January, 2000), we decided to
test the effects of weaving on motorcycle tire temperatures.

We conducted this experiment using Mark Junge and his 1999 Kawasaki
ZX-6R, at Oak Hill Raceway. Michelin tires were used for this test, the
front a standard Pilot Race, and a Pilot Race "W" on the rear. First, we
measured the cold tires' core temperature in the middle and on both
sides of the tread, front and rear. We then sent Junge onto the track to
ride slowly in a straight line and then measured the tire temperatures.
Then we instructed Junge to weave aggressively from turn eight to turn
two and back again (approximately one-half mile), and measured the tire
temperatures again to see how much heat was produced in the tires.

Weaving on the warm-up lap won't warm-up your tires. It will, however,
make it easier for you to run into other riders on the warm-up lap.
Photo by Brian J. Nelson.

Next, we let the Michelins cool off. We then heated the tires on warmers
for 45 minutes per Michelin's recommendation and took the tire
temperatures. Then Junge went out and did the same weaving and
temperatures were taken again to see if additional heat was built up or
if heat was lost.

Next, Junge was sent on a standard warm-up lap. We then quickly measured
the tire temperatures. Then Junge did another 1.8-mile warm-up lap, this
time weaving, and we measured the temperatures again to see if weaving
built additional heat when compared to a standard warm-up lap, kept the
heat in, or lost the heat. Then we did the half-mile of weaving again
before taking the tire temperatures yet another time.

To complete our test of tires and temperatures, we sent our rider out on
two normal warm-up laps. Once back on the starting grid, we stopped the
bike with the tires remaining on the pavement just as you would sit on a
grid with the 3-minute board in the air. Then we measured each tire, as
quickly as possible, to see how quickly the tires lost the heat built up
on the warm-up lap.

The first thing that we discovered while trying to take the temperature
of the cold tires was that the sun has a significant effect on a tire's
t
 
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wow....thanks, i never knew that. now i know that its pointless to weave, i'm not going to do it. I really thoguht that it helped. I'm glad i asked this question. thanks abadfish
 
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People get confused because they see nascar and Indy cars weaving during caution laps. They're not trying to keep heat in the tires either -- their tires are already hot and sticky so they're weaving to get all the track crud off of the tires. There's not much evidence that this really works either. Centrifugal force at speed is the most effective way to get rid of crud on the tires. I think people just believe they look cool weaving back and forth. A buddy of mine crashed at a trackday in Talledega on the straight because he was weaving to warm up the tires. Fortunately he was the only one on the track at the time ... well, unfortunately actually. We all tease him now about how it's possible to crash in the straights[8D]

Nice article abadfish.
 


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