Handlebar Weight/Bar End Replacement Help
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Handlebar Weight/Bar End Replacement Help
Several years ago when I purchased my bike, the previous owner had either removed the bar ends, lost them, or whatever. Either way my bike has had none for the past 3+ years. So I had bought some Vortex bar end sliders. Months later, I'm getting around to installing them, but having some issues.
I want to take the logical process, so I'll start at the top. I have the model BE217K Vortex bar end sliders in the box. I am under the impression that these are the correct model.
As you can see, the half circle cut appears to be approximately in the middle. However, on the handlebar end itself, the cut is far less than a half circle. You can also see where the bolt threads into which is another issue:
When inserting the included hex bolt with the Vortex kit, it will not screw in more than 2 or so turns. After the bolt stops, when turned harder, I can feel the inner handlebar weight (number 8 on the parts fiche) start to turn. I cannot tell if this is because at one point this was cross-threaded by the previous owner, or if it is supposed to stop here.
Referencing the service manual and online parts fiche, it appears that I am possibly missing parts 10 and 11 which could account for the misalignment.
Service manual:
OEM Parts Fiche:
Considering the cost of 8, 10, and 11 I could justify simply purchasing new ones if need be. However, I am hoping this is not the case. Any help or knowledge on this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-Paul
I want to take the logical process, so I'll start at the top. I have the model BE217K Vortex bar end sliders in the box. I am under the impression that these are the correct model.
As you can see, the half circle cut appears to be approximately in the middle. However, on the handlebar end itself, the cut is far less than a half circle. You can also see where the bolt threads into which is another issue:
When inserting the included hex bolt with the Vortex kit, it will not screw in more than 2 or so turns. After the bolt stops, when turned harder, I can feel the inner handlebar weight (number 8 on the parts fiche) start to turn. I cannot tell if this is because at one point this was cross-threaded by the previous owner, or if it is supposed to stop here.
Referencing the service manual and online parts fiche, it appears that I am possibly missing parts 10 and 11 which could account for the misalignment.
Service manual:
OEM Parts Fiche:
Considering the cost of 8, 10, and 11 I could justify simply purchasing new ones if need be. However, I am hoping this is not the case. Any help or knowledge on this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-Paul
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Originally Posted by skoobydoobie
Is it the same on both sides? If so , you may be trying to put a standard (inch) bolt in a metric hole. Go go to the hardware store and get the proper size bolts. Or if the threads are damaged, then get the proper size tap and chase the threads (retap).
Originally Posted by vangill
Mine do the feelng stripped thing. I thought they were fine. I'll try to get some pics for u or something. Remind me if I forget
-Paul
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-Paul
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I personally don't have piece 11 in either side after I dropped my bike. On a rare occasion, the piece will get loose, and about a half turn of the screw fixes it.
As for swapping the part, have you talked to a dealer? I would just take the parts in that you have, ask them to try their "stock" screws, and if they work, you just need a different screw (They'll tell you the size), but if it doesn't, and repeats your problem, it's cross threaded, and I'd just replace part number 8. (getting the right sized screw if need be)
As for swapping the part, have you talked to a dealer? I would just take the parts in that you have, ask them to try their "stock" screws, and if they work, you just need a different screw (They'll tell you the size), but if it doesn't, and repeats your problem, it's cross threaded, and I'd just replace part number 8. (getting the right sized screw if need be)
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So I decided to start with Zero's suggestion and try a stock screw at my Honda dealer up here, and no dice. It had the same problem as the screw that came with the Vortex set of bar end sliders.
So I then figured as some of you had suggested early on that the threads were stripped, so I grabbed a 6mm tap set at Sears, and cleaned up the threads. It wasn't as smooth as I hoped since the inner bar weight started turning once too much torque was applied, but after working it a bit, I could feel it got past the bad threads. Apparently the guy I bought my bike from must not have known there is a difference between SAE and Metric.
Now the bar ends went right on as they should have a week ago.
Skooby, thanks for putting up the picture on your profile of your clipons, but I won't be needing them now. Hope it wasn't a hassle to do that for me.
Thanks for all the help everyone!
So I then figured as some of you had suggested early on that the threads were stripped, so I grabbed a 6mm tap set at Sears, and cleaned up the threads. It wasn't as smooth as I hoped since the inner bar weight started turning once too much torque was applied, but after working it a bit, I could feel it got past the bad threads. Apparently the guy I bought my bike from must not have known there is a difference between SAE and Metric.
Now the bar ends went right on as they should have a week ago.
Skooby, thanks for putting up the picture on your profile of your clipons, but I won't be needing them now. Hope it wasn't a hassle to do that for me.
Thanks for all the help everyone!