First Bike
#22
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I've ridden all the major 600 sportbikes as well. RR, GSXR and R6, as well as my f4i, haven't ridden a new zx6r, have ridden the 10r though. And to be honest I didn't notice much difference cept for ergos in the 600's either, I mean this bike or that might be a hair quicker than another, powerband might kick in at a slightly different rpm etc, but they are all fast as all hell, no really huge difference, especially not to an average rider. Anyone calling any 600 tame for a new rider is way off base. Closest thing to a "tame" inline 4 600 would prolly be a yzf600r, and even then its more than a new rider is really ready for.
A 600 supersport as a First bike? Are we really having this discussion again? Fact is a 600 superbike is able to get anyone, an experienced or especially a new rider into trouble faster than they can get themselves out of if they make one bad decision, a decision thats especially easy to make wrongly if your new or inexperienced. Noone can really argue that a 250 isn't a safer, better bike to learn the fundamentals and motor skills of riding on. The only arguement against them that has any merit to it is that you'll eventually outgrow the bike and want something faster. Thing is, 250's hold their value insanely well and are easy to sell for damn near what you paid for them, if not at a profit. So whats the issue? Learn on a safer bike then sell it and get a faster one. Way too much testosterone and self justifying bs gets drug out whenever this debate starts. "I started on a 600 and haven't died yet, blah blah." "My friend has a 250 and already wants something faster" Etc Etc. Who cares, fact is a 250 is a smarter choice, no matter how you slice it. You might be able to buy a 600 as a first bike and never have a problem, happens, however the chance that you might have something serioiusly go wrong is much higher than on a 250, all a matter of whether or not you care about increased risk or not. There's always a risk, no matter what you ride, just a matter of how much you want to mitigate it. Fact is it all comes down to you and what your comfortable with.
A 600 supersport as a First bike? Are we really having this discussion again? Fact is a 600 superbike is able to get anyone, an experienced or especially a new rider into trouble faster than they can get themselves out of if they make one bad decision, a decision thats especially easy to make wrongly if your new or inexperienced. Noone can really argue that a 250 isn't a safer, better bike to learn the fundamentals and motor skills of riding on. The only arguement against them that has any merit to it is that you'll eventually outgrow the bike and want something faster. Thing is, 250's hold their value insanely well and are easy to sell for damn near what you paid for them, if not at a profit. So whats the issue? Learn on a safer bike then sell it and get a faster one. Way too much testosterone and self justifying bs gets drug out whenever this debate starts. "I started on a 600 and haven't died yet, blah blah." "My friend has a 250 and already wants something faster" Etc Etc. Who cares, fact is a 250 is a smarter choice, no matter how you slice it. You might be able to buy a 600 as a first bike and never have a problem, happens, however the chance that you might have something serioiusly go wrong is much higher than on a 250, all a matter of whether or not you care about increased risk or not. There's always a risk, no matter what you ride, just a matter of how much you want to mitigate it. Fact is it all comes down to you and what your comfortable with.
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i think a 250 is going to be a safer choice when it comes to starting to ride. I didnt have a choice since a guy wanted to trade me his bike(2002 f4i) for my jeep. I didnt have any experince at all and got the hang of it so far. I still dont consider myself having any real experince at all. So im going to take the MSC in about 2 weeks. I still think it can be done safely if your smart and just take it real easy and think you should be fine.
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I had been looking at the new kawasaki ninja 250 as my first bike but while looking at a dealers website a couple hours away (im in north dakota so everything is couple hours away) I saw they had an 02 f4i. Are f4i's good starter bikes? This bike has little over 10k miles and they have it listed at 2,999 but will go lower.
Basically is this a good starter bike and anything about these bikes to watch out for getting up in the higher miles? Is this a good price?
Basically is this a good starter bike and anything about these bikes to watch out for getting up in the higher miles? Is this a good price?
probably cuz your in North Dakota Nowhere
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LOL, speak of the exact same story I have. cept there WAS NO 250r's for sell!! every dealership was out of stock and no one was selling any locally! I took the MSF and I wanted a bike.. saw the 06 F4i but never did any reading on it i just loved the way she looked! bought her for 5500 with 10k miles.. yea I know overpriced... but I wanted a bike now.
i'm now 12k miles in my first season and have been hit by another car but didn't go down. other than that I love it. I've gotten use to it's powerband, had a bad clutch. replaced and now learning to do second gear wheelies
I still wanna buy a 250R once I pay off this bike. Cause I can honestly say it took me the entire year just to get use to the torque of this bike. With a 250R you can learn so much quicker on it, plus they are really light compared to 600's so they are easier to learn cornering techniques and much easier for a person to learn to get their knee down.
i'm now 12k miles in my first season and have been hit by another car but didn't go down. other than that I love it. I've gotten use to it's powerband, had a bad clutch. replaced and now learning to do second gear wheelies
I still wanna buy a 250R once I pay off this bike. Cause I can honestly say it took me the entire year just to get use to the torque of this bike. With a 250R you can learn so much quicker on it, plus they are really light compared to 600's so they are easier to learn cornering techniques and much easier for a person to learn to get their knee down.
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All I have to say, is I never rode a bike before I got my 05 f4i. Like absolute zero experience. Just knew how to drive stick shift. I've had it for about a month and a half plus or minus a few days, and I'm comfortable on it now 100%. I'm just really starting to explore the power band, and seeing what it can do at the higher RPM's.
For that price. Take it. Learn to ride smart, and don't abuse the speed. I went 600cc, and I'll never ever drop down.
For that price. Take it. Learn to ride smart, and don't abuse the speed. I went 600cc, and I'll never ever drop down.