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F4i only starts when she wants to :(

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Old 04-09-2014, 11:22 AM
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Angry F4i only starts when she wants to :(

Hi all,

Last weekend I pulled her out the garage to go for a spin.
Tried to start it, but the battery was dead. So I pushed the bike and started it.
After about an hour of driving I figured the battery should be charged enough.
After a little break, turned the key, fuel pump primes, lights go on, alarm bleeps, press the start button.....

Nothing.... Pushed it on again.

At the next stop which was 2 hours later I tried the same thing, turned the key, fuel pump primes, lights on, alarm bleeps, press the start button....

And it worked!

Drove for another 2 hours, turned the bike off at a friends place. About one hour later we decided to get something to eat.
Got on the bike, did the usuall and.....

Didn't start

After I came home pulled the battery put it on the charger and the charger said it was full (obviously, cus all the electronics on the bike worked)

Did this happen to anyone here?

Any tips on how to find the problem?

Help is really appreciated!
 
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:36 AM
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Is it hard to start? And when it doesn't start does the bike do anything like turn over but wont start or when you push the button the lights dim and the starter doesn't run? Are you starting in gear? Check your clutch and sidestand switches. check all the connections for the ignition. What type of alarm do you have? Does it have an ignition kill feature?
 
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:59 AM
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Thanks for the fast reply.

It takes about 5-10 steps to get up to speed, release clutch and she runs.
When using the button, just the lights dim a little nothing else happens.
Pushing in 1 or 2nd, electric start in neutral
if it was sidestand or clutch switch it shouldn't run at all right?

It's an spyball alarm.

I'm taking of fairings right now, find the manual and hope to start testing wires tonight
 
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:03 PM
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Have the battery load checked.
 
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:22 PM
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I would say try disconnect the alarm first and see if thats the problem, and charge your battery up and check the rectifier see if there are any burn wires
 
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 74demon View Post
Have the battery load checked.
I'll take the battery with me and have it checkec tomorrow.
 
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:07 PM
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Managed to check some things before dark.

Battery was full
All the connections look good
Main relais gets power

It was to dark to get to the starter so i'll try that tomorrow...
 
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:33 PM
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So found this clip which seems like the same problem as mine. Except you can hear his starter mine doesnt.
Since my battery was just under 11 volt i'll put in on the charger overnight and let someone test it.
 
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Old 04-10-2014, 04:17 AM
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Sound like a dead batt in the clip. It wont be the R/R or alternator, your bike isn't displaying the right symptoms. Try cleaning all your connections and pack them full of di-electric grease. Make sure all the spark plug wires are secure and clean and check your starter motor it might be starting to go bad.

When cleaning your connections make sure you use contact cleaner and di-electric grease. Pull apart every connection and remove any corrosion and pack it. Check the starter switch, engine stop switch, neutral switch, clutch switch, sidestand switch, all fuses and the battery terminals as well as all relays.

Check your fuses, they may be old and corroded, check your starter motor cable for an open circuit or dirty or loose terminals, check the starter relay switch for an open circit/dirty/loose terminals. make sure that when you press the ignition switch that your starter relay clicks once. Make sure your starter relay switch has continuity and voltage.

Hope it helps, or gets others on the right track.
 
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:19 PM
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First off let me say thanks to everyone who responded so fast and was willing to think with/for me.

Second: i am so embarrased to say this. Especially since i always tell other people to start looking at the obvious things....

That being said: i took the battery to a battery shop and had it tested....
It put out about 50A while it should have been around 157?

Purchased a new battery, put it in, and she runs like never before...

Thanks again for the help!
 

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