Dealing with a shady seller - 01 F4i
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Dealing with a shady seller - 01 F4i
If you have read my other post then you may be familiar with my seller situation. Plainly put the guy is somewhat shady.
Is it possible to "run" or find ownership and/or a serivce history on a used bike? This is if the owner does not have the recepits/records of course. I have already spoke with my MVD and given them the VIN and they stated that the bike registers to a 2001 Honda and is NOT labeled as stolen or the such. She gave me the last 4 digits to the current title they have on file. The VIN checks out. But I asked if the owners name (the name he gave me) is the current owner and she said no! So either he is lying about his real name or the title is not in his name. Now is it possible that when I see the title (and I WILL check that the title's last 4 digits are what the MVD told me) that it was given to him as an "open title" and he never bothered to register the bike and is now wanting to hand it over to me? I mean I guess there is nothing wrong with that as long as theres a signature and its notarized and the buyer line is empty? I will obviously check the front side for liens or salvaged etc..but if the back of the title is signed and notarized with an empty buyer spot, then I guess its ok bc it is now an open title and I can go title it in my name right?
The front of the title will not state the previous owner and at what mileage HE got the bike at correct? How do I get a ownership history or ANY type of report/history on the bike!?
Is it possible to "run" or find ownership and/or a serivce history on a used bike? This is if the owner does not have the recepits/records of course. I have already spoke with my MVD and given them the VIN and they stated that the bike registers to a 2001 Honda and is NOT labeled as stolen or the such. She gave me the last 4 digits to the current title they have on file. The VIN checks out. But I asked if the owners name (the name he gave me) is the current owner and she said no! So either he is lying about his real name or the title is not in his name. Now is it possible that when I see the title (and I WILL check that the title's last 4 digits are what the MVD told me) that it was given to him as an "open title" and he never bothered to register the bike and is now wanting to hand it over to me? I mean I guess there is nothing wrong with that as long as theres a signature and its notarized and the buyer line is empty? I will obviously check the front side for liens or salvaged etc..but if the back of the title is signed and notarized with an empty buyer spot, then I guess its ok bc it is now an open title and I can go title it in my name right?
The front of the title will not state the previous owner and at what mileage HE got the bike at correct? How do I get a ownership history or ANY type of report/history on the bike!?
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If you have read my other post then you may be familiar with my seller situation. Plainly put the guy is somewhat shady.
Is it possible to "run" or find ownership and/or a serivce history on a used bike? This is if the owner does not have the recepits/records of course. I have already spoke with my MVD and given them the VIN and they stated that the bike registers to a 2001 Honda and is NOT labeled as stolen or the such. She gave me the last 4 digits to the current title they have on file. The VIN checks out. But I asked if the owners name (the name he gave me) is the current owner and she said no! So either he is lying about his real name or the title is not in his name. Now is it possible that when I see the title (and I WILL check that the title's last 4 digits are what the MVD told me) that it was given to him as an "open title" and he never bothered to register the bike and is now wanting to hand it over to me? I mean I guess there is nothing wrong with that as long as theres a signature and its notarized and the buyer line is empty? I will obviously check the front side for liens or salvaged etc..but if the back of the title is signed and notarized with an empty buyer spot, then I guess its ok bc it is now an open title and I can go title it in my name right?
The front of the title will not state the previous owner and at what mileage HE got the bike at correct? How do I get a ownership history or ANY type of report/history on the bike!?
Is it possible to "run" or find ownership and/or a serivce history on a used bike? This is if the owner does not have the recepits/records of course. I have already spoke with my MVD and given them the VIN and they stated that the bike registers to a 2001 Honda and is NOT labeled as stolen or the such. She gave me the last 4 digits to the current title they have on file. The VIN checks out. But I asked if the owners name (the name he gave me) is the current owner and she said no! So either he is lying about his real name or the title is not in his name. Now is it possible that when I see the title (and I WILL check that the title's last 4 digits are what the MVD told me) that it was given to him as an "open title" and he never bothered to register the bike and is now wanting to hand it over to me? I mean I guess there is nothing wrong with that as long as theres a signature and its notarized and the buyer line is empty? I will obviously check the front side for liens or salvaged etc..but if the back of the title is signed and notarized with an empty buyer spot, then I guess its ok bc it is now an open title and I can go title it in my name right?
The front of the title will not state the previous owner and at what mileage HE got the bike at correct? How do I get a ownership history or ANY type of report/history on the bike!?
IF THE TITLE IS DATED and the "sellers name" is wrong ide ask him about it... also if its dated from when he purchased it but never wrote his name on it and also never registered it... u may be charged a bunch of extra fees when u go to register it (they do in Illinois... ide just use the it wasn't running when i bought it excuse if i were u)... just fyi...
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if u run a car fax you can get more information....
IF THE TITLE IS DATED and the "sellers name" is wrong ide ask him about it... also if its dated from when he purchased it but never wrote his name on it and also never registered it... u may be charged a bunch of extra fees when u go to register it (they do in Illinois... ide just use the it wasn't running when i bought it excuse if i were u)... just fyi...
IF THE TITLE IS DATED and the "sellers name" is wrong ide ask him about it... also if its dated from when he purchased it but never wrote his name on it and also never registered it... u may be charged a bunch of extra fees when u go to register it (they do in Illinois... ide just use the it wasn't running when i bought it excuse if i were u)... just fyi...
Carfax showed:
2 records found in the CARFAX Vehicle History database
guy claims he is the 3rd owner...so given 1 record is the initial owner and the 2nd record is the 2nd owner, that means maybe he has the open title to the bike from the 2nd owner (he claims he bought it off his friend) or that possibly it isnt even his bike...or his friend gave it to him bc he owed him money or something....then this guy never titled it in his name or registered it???....either way it would be legit and legal for me to buy correct?
but the dmv said the last title they have was registered in 2007 and this shady suppossed owner claims hes only had the bike for 6 months???
Also, is there anyway to tamper with or "roll back" the odo on these bikes?
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05-07-2010, 05:25 PM
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I found out a way to freeze my odometer...but not roll it back...I accidently went 1000 miles un-recorded. When i changed the color of my gauges, one of the leads broke off, so every time i got up to XX299 miles, it just reset back to XX200...lol It took me forever to fingure out the problem..I doubt anyone could really intentionally mess with it though.
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