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Old 06-23-2010, 09:05 PM
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Reasons why I think the clutch on my 01 F4i is on its way out:
1. grabs at the very top - instantly, there's no progression
2. adjusted clutch cable at the lever to no avail (did not adjust by the engine yet, will try soon)
3. there is adequate freeplay so I don't think I'm burning it

Reasons I haven't gotten new clutch yet:
1. clutch does not slip
2. bike only has 7500 mi with about 3000 track miles (beginner to intermediate pace)

Questions:
I know it's hard to diagnose without experiencing first hand but:
1. do you think clutch is really worn out? I don't abuse it - blip when downshifting, no wheelies, burnouts, etc
2. my guess is it's likely just plates, anyone think otherwise?
3. can you inspect clutch without draining the oil? I only did 4 track days this year and would hate to throw away $45 worth of synthetic oil. I recall someone saying it can be done with loosing just a little oil but would love confirmation and directions as to how. Did anyone inspect the clutch while leaning the bike to avoid oil spillage?

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Old 06-23-2010, 09:09 PM
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lean the bike on its side, u wont loose any oil, but i am pretty sure the f4is clutch grabs pretty far out with the stock springs, especially if they have a bit of wear on them.


if the clutch isnt slipping, id say its not bad, just try adjusting at the engine
 
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:17 PM
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Thanks for fast replay. How far we talking? Lean it against a wall or laying it down on the peg (woodcrafts)?
 
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:21 PM
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well, what i did was terrible but ill tell u lol
i rolled the bike up on a 2x4 in the front and back tires and then laid it over the kickstand, i think it put too much pressure on the stand tho. i would bet against a wall is fine but basicallly as far as u can get it to go and still be stable. i didnt loose any oil at all, maybe a drop from the side of the cover but no more
 
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:31 PM
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It doesn't have to be leaning very much. I turn bars all the way to the right and lean bike against wall with left clip-on. Sounds like you got it too hot at some point and just warped the steels. A smooth flat surface and set of feeler gauges will tell you. You can continue riding it like that but if they are warped, it will always be grabby.
 
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i had the same question, this is my first bike and the friction zone is almost at the very end of the clutch lever, is this normal???
i drove my friends 03 636 and his friction zone begins almost immediately...
help fellas!!!
 
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Originally Posted by efeliciano13
i had the same question, this is my first bike and the friction zone is almost at the very end of the clutch lever, is this normal???
i drove my friends 03 636 and his friction zone begins almost immediately...
help fellas!!!
From my first post I do believe I said this was a fairly common f4i thing


U can get a new clutch and adjust it and possibly stiffer springs and it'll begin sooner if u really want it too but it'll eventually wear out again. Not meaning it's done it's just got some time on it
 
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:41 AM
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I have heard most f4i(including mine and even my f2) grab at the very end for the most part. I think its normal from the sounds of it.
 
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Mine grabs at the end too. Then I adjusted it both at the lever (turned the screw all the way in) and at the motor (pulled all the slack out of it), then it engaged alot sooner, I didn't like that, as I was used to the way it was and did an incidental wheelie, so I loosened the slack a lil and its back the way it was, engaging about half way out. (more like 2/3)
 
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:55 AM
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@vangill
LOL, that's pretty clever - thanks for sharing.

@cbr900racer77
If adjusting clutch cable doesn't help I will definitively be inspecting it this weekend. I really don't like the way it is now having small hands and all.
 


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