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Dazed May 6, 2012 09:02 PM

Downshifting to stop?
 
Hey,
Just wondering how you guys stop, do you use engine braking most of the time, Or do you pull in the clutch in use the front brake. Or a little of both.

estate4life May 6, 2012 09:39 PM

Ultilized all.....

When you pull the clutch (your intention is the shed speed) you must down shift anyway right. So at te same time apply rear brake and front.

Remember if only use engine braking, your tail stop light won't trigger so OP behind you would not know you are slowing down. So okay to engine brake & apply both F/R brake same time....

Now if your going straight...front brake will shed speed fastest, so apply that more for emergency brake.

ajzcamaro May 7, 2012 12:46 AM

I use the front brake and downshift while rev matching each gear in order to keep the back wheel from locking up. Sometimes I will use the back brake along with the above.

Steve Theodore May 7, 2012 11:06 PM

I've found that if I get out of the mindset of using my rear brake that I start to never really use it...which is a big NO-NO right from MSF 101 class! ;)

So, I try to practice balanced braking and also downshifting. I'm not very skilled with rev matching at this point though, but it's fine to practice just the same.

RedBaron May 8, 2012 02:43 AM

Both rev match and brake, clutch doesn't get pulled until I'm almost at a complete stop.

Conrice May 8, 2012 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Steve Theodore (Post 1157545)
I've found that if I get out of the mindset of using my rear brake that I start to never really use it...which is a big NO-NO right from MSF 101 class! ;)
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msf's 70/30 is for standards and cruisers. it's almost 90/10 on race reps, and it causes the rear ends to lock up more so than not really using it - so it's not really as big of a no no as you think

Ironhead May 8, 2012 06:01 PM

The 954 has a rear brake? : )

GorgeousHellion May 12, 2012 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 1157840)
The 954 has a rear brake? : )

Maybe I missed something...

Wisconsin May 13, 2012 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by ajzcamaro (Post 1157150)
I use the front brake and downshift while rev matching each gear in order to keep the back wheel from locking up. Sometimes I will use the back brake along with the above.

How do you know what rev's you should be at for each individual gear?

Conrice May 13, 2012 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Wisconsin (Post 1159285)
How do you know what rev's you should be at for each individual gear?

it's more of a blip of the throttle. and when letting the clutch out just after a blip, it'll match the rpms.

if you held constant throttle, you'd have to know the exact rpms, but when you blip, the clutch essentially matches it for you.

it's a timing and feel kind of thing. you should have been taught that in msf


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