Third ride... me again
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10-04-2006 | 05:26 PM
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10-04-2006 | 09:20 PM
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RE: Third ride... me again
ORIGINAL: james007torres24
how do i find out more about this?
ORIGINAL: OldFatGuy
Also, if your bike is new you should automatically be enrolled in the Honda Rider's Club -- they will reimburse you $75 for taking the MSF course. The price of the class just got cut in half for you!!!
Ride Safe!!!
Also, if your bike is new you should automatically be enrolled in the Honda Rider's Club -- they will reimburse you $75 for taking the MSF course. The price of the class just got cut in half for you!!!
Ride Safe!!!
My wife took the beginners class (twice) and I took the advanced class and they reimbursed us each time.
#25
10-04-2006 | 09:36 PM
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RE: Third ride... me again
ORIGINAL: Blue Fox
This is shear poetry. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO READ JAMES! I agree with every word, every puntuation mark, every point made. If you are weary of the bike, stay off it until the class. (Shaky inputs through a corner at a low speed will make your fears come true). I also HIGHLY agree with the part about the bike you started out with. A 600RR is not really a starter bike. These are pure-bred race bikes, built mainly for the track first, street second. The RR stands for "Race-Replica" (so I've been told).
But if you are going to continue riding before you're class, know your bike. Read the owners manual AND that little Honda riding tips booklet that came with your bike BEFORE you get back on it. It can be a lifesaver if you've never taken the class.
If I ever seem ill tempered or angry, I apologize. I just HATE seeing new riders going down or getting injured because they never aquired the proper training and skills NEEDED to ride one of these bikes.
ORIGINAL: knightslugger
James, it's great that you're giving it the old college try, but you really don't want to fuq yourself up before the MSF course. if you do, you may not want to be on a bike again, or you'll be so shaky that you fail. I'm all for learning new things, but you didn't buy a learning bike. you need to be less afarid. this bike doesn't do scared very well. one little incorrect input can kill you. it's a very unforgiving bike and if you don't respect it, and demand respect in return, it will toss you like a rag doll in a doberman's mouth.
What's done is done, but i really wish you would have started on a more upright, less extreeme motorcycle like any of the big name standards like the EX500/650 or the GS500/SV650. They offer new undiciplined riders slack when it comes to mistakes that would toss up a wheel on the rr.
I suggest that you either put it away until you take the MSF course, or trade it for one of the above, though i doubt you will. this bike is not for you........yet.
James, it's great that you're giving it the old college try, but you really don't want to fuq yourself up before the MSF course. if you do, you may not want to be on a bike again, or you'll be so shaky that you fail. I'm all for learning new things, but you didn't buy a learning bike. you need to be less afarid. this bike doesn't do scared very well. one little incorrect input can kill you. it's a very unforgiving bike and if you don't respect it, and demand respect in return, it will toss you like a rag doll in a doberman's mouth.
What's done is done, but i really wish you would have started on a more upright, less extreeme motorcycle like any of the big name standards like the EX500/650 or the GS500/SV650. They offer new undiciplined riders slack when it comes to mistakes that would toss up a wheel on the rr.
I suggest that you either put it away until you take the MSF course, or trade it for one of the above, though i doubt you will. this bike is not for you........yet.
But if you are going to continue riding before you're class, know your bike. Read the owners manual AND that little Honda riding tips booklet that came with your bike BEFORE you get back on it. It can be a lifesaver if you've never taken the class.
If I ever seem ill tempered or angry, I apologize. I just HATE seeing new riders going down or getting injured because they never aquired the proper training and skills NEEDED to ride one of these bikes.
#26
10-04-2006 | 10:08 PM
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RE: Third ride... me again
Well, it's a good idea to take the MSF course, but not 100% necessary if you're motivated enough to learn on your own. I taught myself, but I spent many many many hours reading different books on the matter. You've got to understand the physics and whatnot with how the bike acts and what causes problems in stability. Just slowly work your way up and practice. After you've got the basics, you'll be throttling while downshifting, clutching and braking, trail braking (sometimes you need too) and learning the rear brake.
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10-05-2006 | 03:37 AM
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RE: Third ride... me again
ORIGINAL: james007torres24
thats funny, making it up... i work night. 7 pm to 6 am. i rode around 10 am then got back and whent to sleep. i will take it next week or soo. i want to my alarm first. its 350 and msf
thats funny, making it up... i work night. 7 pm to 6 am. i rode around 10 am then got back and whent to sleep. i will take it next week or soo. i want to my alarm first. its 350 and msf
ride safe not tired or fatigued
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10-05-2006 | 04:00 AM
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Some of you guys are straight out of the Special Olympics...RR doesn't stand for race ready, race replica or anything of the sort...it's just letters on the back of the bike...but Honda likes that people buy into that stuff, they love being able to sell bikes to schmucks who think these are pure bred race machines...don't get me wrong...these bikes are fast, but a pure bred race bike comes from highly protected facilities us average people will never get a glimpse of...sorry to burst some of your bubbles, but it's true.
Telling this new rider to not use the rear brake is dangerous for the fact that he needs to learn the basics first...how to use both brakes, throttle, clutch, basic turning, stopping...you know...baby steps. The rear brake causes a problem during extreme braking like on the track where we use 90% front brake…then the rear break can be a problem because the rear is barely on the ground and can lock up by even touching it.
For every day street riding the rear brake is a useful tool and significantly reduce stopping distance or bring you safely to a stop on bad road conditions. I use the rear brake a lot on the street, especially when going slow.
Lighten up on the new guy, stop being so mean and stop trying to get him hurt!!!
Telling this new rider to not use the rear brake is dangerous for the fact that he needs to learn the basics first...how to use both brakes, throttle, clutch, basic turning, stopping...you know...baby steps. The rear brake causes a problem during extreme braking like on the track where we use 90% front brake…then the rear break can be a problem because the rear is barely on the ground and can lock up by even touching it.
For every day street riding the rear brake is a useful tool and significantly reduce stopping distance or bring you safely to a stop on bad road conditions. I use the rear brake a lot on the street, especially when going slow.
Lighten up on the new guy, stop being so mean and stop trying to get him hurt!!!
#29
10-05-2006 | 04:20 AM
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RE: Third ride... me again
when i was a newb i locked the rear whell twice and it felt uncomfortable to say the least.........the consequences on our bikes because of the steap profile can be kinda butthole puckerin espically if you dont know how to handle it, if the guy wants to learn how to lock the rear tire then go do the MSF on the nighthawk 250s which feels like nothings happening but hes not very apet on that at the moment. In reality he will use it but the warning not to use it will be in his head for the initial learning phases so he doesnt go stomp on it, he will find the balance point like we all have....
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10-05-2006 | 04:53 AM
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ORIGINAL: tweak mt
when i was a newb i locked the rear whell twice and it felt uncomfortable to say the least.........the consequences on our bikes because of the steap profile can be kinda butthole puckerin espically if you dont know how to handle it, if the guy wants to learn how to lock the rear tire then go do the MSF on the nighthawk 250s which feels like nothings happening but hes not very apet on that at the moment. In reality he will use it but the warning not to use it will be in his head for the initial learning phases so he doesnt go stomp on it, he will find the balance point like we all have....
when i was a newb i locked the rear whell twice and it felt uncomfortable to say the least.........the consequences on our bikes because of the steap profile can be kinda butthole puckerin espically if you dont know how to handle it, if the guy wants to learn how to lock the rear tire then go do the MSF on the nighthawk 250s which feels like nothings happening but hes not very apet on that at the moment. In reality he will use it but the warning not to use it will be in his head for the initial learning phases so he doesnt go stomp on it, he will find the balance point like we all have....