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Old 10-05-2006 | 08:16 PM
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The dealer here in Northern VA were selling them for $7,500 as their end of season sale. I presume there
would be some flexibility on that.

I used the Honda card and I got a good interest rate etc, but that all depends on your situation.

Good luck, do the MSF course and be safe...

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Old 10-05-2006 | 09:29 PM
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contrary to what everyone else is telling you, i think you should definately pick up a 600RR for your first bike. Any sportbike will be inherently dangerous... as long as you ride safe and sensibly and you respect the bike you'll be ok.
 
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Old 10-05-2006 | 09:41 PM
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I think as long as you're financing it, you have to carry full coverage - because it's still really the lender's bike until you are done paying off the loan.
I financed through Honda card and I didn't have to carry full coverage. I even told the insurance company i had it financed and she just said ok, what coverage do you want.. I'm with Progressive. I paid $282 for 12 months. probably would've been low $100's if i didn't have 5 tickets within the last 3 years. oh well. young and stupid w/ a 350 V8. won't happen anymore.
 
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Old 10-05-2006 | 09:53 PM
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Just like many of other members have said already...IF YOU WANT THAT NEW BIKE, AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE FINANCING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FULL-COVERAGE!!!, MATTER OF FACT...THE DEALERSHIP WON'T EVEN LET YOU TAKE THAT BIKE OFF OF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR UNLESS YOU SHOW THEM PROOF THAT YOU HAVE FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE. Companies such as GE MoneyBank, Honda Credit Union, etc., require the dealership to fax them proof of your full coverage insurance so their *** is covered in case you f**k YOUR bike up, not to mention the fact that they need that information before the deal can be "closed". Besides, why in the hell wouldn't you want full coverage insurance on a brand new "$10,000+/-" bike? I mean, you're going to be paying on it for awhile, so...and if you do f**k it up, you're going to be out on ALOT of money fixing the bike up yourself whereas if you had full coverage, there's nothing to worry about! Think about it man! Oh yeah, if you've had speeding tickets driving your Camaro...LMMFAO...just wait until you get a bike! You'll really be f**ked! Look to spend somewhere in the neighborhood between $7000-$8000+/- in December for a 2006 600RR, maybe even cheaper if you're a good **** talker, lol!
 
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Old 10-05-2006 | 10:23 PM
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contrary to what everyone else is telling you, i think you should definately pick up a 600RR for your first bike. Any sportbike will be inherently dangerous... as long as you ride safe and sensibly and you respect the bike you'll be ok.
are you ****ing retarded?! What the hell is wrong with you?!! This is not a first time operator friendly bike! 105HP in as little as 2 seconds! And any motorcycle is inherently dangerous, even cruisers! Do you know why that is? BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE **** THEY ARE DOING!! You don't ride a motorcycle like a car, or a bicycle, or a skateboard, or a host of other locomotive travel. You have no idea what to expect, where it comes from, or how to do anything on the road. I read a story about a "Level headed guy" who bought a brand new R6, and wrecked it after ONE DAY. know what happened? HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO TURN THE BIKE! Plowed right into a guard rail at 40 mph or better. guys fine, but so long R6. Insurance paperwork wasn't even finalized. stupid **** happens on the road. Turtles, rabbits, potholes, uneven surfaces, concrete lips, target fixation, water, painted road markings, tar strips in the summer... i could go on and on. a new rider doesn't know about these dangers. On a bike as responsive and powerful as this, it begs for blood!

Say for instance a new rider goes out on a lovely summer day. It's 80*, wind is fair, clear sky, bright sun. PERFECT summer riding weather. they get all their gear out, and dawned go out and get on the bike. what he didn't expect is that the city is sealing a rural road in his intended path of travel. now you might think that the workers would SURELY put out warning signs for hot tar, or road work ahead, or something, right? We guess again. he's got no idea what he's running into. to him, he's been over tar countless times in his car and never thought twice about it. and sure enough, he goes right over the tar tracks and goes about his way though the road past the construction without incident. Happens all the time. ahead there is a stop light. he's been to a dozen of these lights, and knows how to stop. he proceeds to apply the brakes. BUT WAIT!! All that warm tar stuck to his wheels! He's got no rubber to stop on!! His front end skitters around while he desperately flails his legs to keep the ride upright, the front is locked up tighter than a nun's ****. the rear wheel is starting to fish tail, and he;'s running out of road... soon the bike looses all traction and it's laid right on side with him to the side, sliding with it, right into traffic.

the rest is history.

All motorcycles are dangerous. it's a risk we all take. True the story has little to do with power, and much to do about common road hazards but the outcome is all the same. Too much power can lead to catastrophic loss. An unintentional wheelie caused by a concrete driveway lip sends the rider back into the seat, causing his untrained wrist to snap down hard on the throttle, sending him right into a brick wall. a car that pulls out from an ally right in front of you causes the untrained and shaking fist to lock the front brake ending in an endo. you awake lying in a hospital bed unable to move your arms or legs because the motorcycle landed on the back of your neck. Target fixation causes you to wander too far outside a country curve sending you flying to the woods, a telephone poll, or a barbed wire fence at 60mph.

and when you gain back your cognitive memory, to reflect on what happened and the decisions you made. every 1st time accident story i've heard always came back to the same conclusion time and time again:

"I wish i started smaller..."

and now they'll never have the chance to ride again, because they are either too ****ed up to ride, or are no longer breathing.

it's your ****ing choice. It's your life. It's you who will bear the consequences o
 
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Old 10-05-2006 | 10:55 PM
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Alright, first off... thank you to everyone that answered my questions regarding the price and financing...

A big **** you to everyone that tried to give their opinion on whether or not i should buy a 600RR...

knightslugger... i can understand where you are coming from... but god damn, dont come off like a big dick.
"So you think you know how to ride because you've been out on the country roads (straight as friggin arrow no doubt) and a few skermishes into the city... get real. If that's all you'll ever do, get a more comfortable bike, like a BMW or a weekend cruiser. But i guess once a n00b makes up their mind, it's hard to talk them out of it, nevermind weather they THINK they know what they are doing, or not."

**** you man, who are you to tell me whether or not i know how to ride a bike. would you like me to go into detail the roads ive been on and their conditions when riding? and who gives you the right to call me a noob. i could be 45 yrs old and been riding since i was 16 for all you know, but seeing as how i ask 2 simple questions, you assume im some punk *** kid that THINKS he can ride a bike.

"in short, you're about to step into the world of dbt management. I hope you've got the constitution to admit when you're over your head..."
excuse me, but i believe i can manage debt just fine. dont sit there and act like im a ****ing 16 yr old with graduation money.
nice little story... i think we all realize how dangerous a bike is and the amount of risk one takes when getting on one.

this is just bull****. again, i appreciate everyone who just answered my ****ing questions... i didnt ask for peoples opinions on whether or not i should buy a 600rr
 
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Old 10-05-2006 | 11:21 PM
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If you can manage debt just fine, then how come you've come to us asking for consultation? You can't afford the insurance on the bike. You can't even get a measly signature loan! get real! either you've got such bad credit rating that buying a $10k bike is out of the question for your banker, or you're stretching your monthly penance so thin, that you're barely treading water OR you're barely over 18. If you can manage debt, it's not done very well. You start a topic entitled "Questions on 1st bike purchase..." on a CBR Forum. to me, that was a signal flare that this was YOUR first road bike. You told me your experience. Slow learning over several years. a few jaunts into town. country road cruising. Don't try to pass off mediocre experience as solid life changing skill. any idiot can go down a straight road.

I'm a ***** because sometimes it takes one to get a new overconfident rider to start thinking about what they are getting into. this isn't a game. this isn't about the bling, or what your friends say, or what the neighbors daughter thinks of your ***** size. It's about making the right decisions time and time again. being stubborn can and will get you killed riding a bike such as this.

buy what you will. just remember those stories are real. it happens. and most of them started on a 100+hp Supersport motorcycle, because they thought it was cool.

and just for record, i did answer your questions with good information. take my words with the same weight as the others.
 
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Old 10-05-2006 | 11:25 PM
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just thought i'd chime in regarding insurance coverage. as a lender i will tell you that it is "required" to have FULL COVERAGE insurance as long as there is a lien on the bike. however, once you leave my office i have no control over what a person does. many people will cancel their coverage w/o telling their lender. so be it. most ins companies will send me a letter to inform me that coverage has been cancelled... then i am required to add our insurance (which is a **** load more $$) - which makes your payments go up. cancellation notices are not always sent out though. in any case... cancelling coverage (or reducing it) is a risk that you are accepting. case in point... 2 guys i ride with did just that (cancelled their ins). well one guy had his 06 gixxer stolen a week after he dropped coverage. the other guy wrecked his bike (another 06 gixxer) 3 days after cancelling. now both will be paying for their bikes for the next few years... with no bike to ride. something to think about.

best of luck to you in whatever you do!
 
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Old 10-06-2006 | 12:47 AM
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contrary to what everyone else is telling you, i think you should definately pick up a 600RR for your first bike. Any sportbike will be inherently dangerous... as long as you ride safe and sensibly and you respect the bike you'll be ok.
are you ****ing retarded?! What the hell is wrong with you?!! This is not a first time operator friendly bike! 105HP in as little as 2 seconds! And any motorcycle is inherently dangerous, even cruisers! Do you know why that is? BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE **** THEY ARE DOING!! You don't ride a motorcycle like a car, or a bicycle, or a skateboard, or a host of other locomotive travel. You have no idea what to expect, where it comes from, or how to do anything on the road. I read a story about a "Level headed guy" who bought a brand new R6, and wrecked it after ONE DAY. know what happened? HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO TURN THE BIKE! Plowed right into a guard rail at 40 mph or better. guys fine, but so long R6. Insurance paperwork wasn't even finalized. stupid **** happens on the road. Turtles, rabbits, potholes, uneven surfaces, concrete lips, target fixation, water, painted road markings, tar strips in the summer... i could go on and on. a new rider doesn't know about these dangers. On a bike as responsive and powerful as this, it begs for blood!

Say for instance a new rider goes out on a lovely summer day. It's 80*, wind is fair, clear sky, bright sun. PERFECT summer riding weather. they get all their gear out, and dawned go out and get on the bike. what he didn't expect is that the city is sealing a rural road in his intended path of travel. now you might think that the workers would SURELY put out warning signs for hot tar, or road work ahead, or something, right? We guess again. he's got no idea what he's running into. to him, he's been over tar countless times in his car and never thought twice about it. and sure enough, he goes right over the tar tracks and goes about his way though the road past the construction without incident. Happens all the time. ahead there is a stop light. he's been to a dozen of these lights, and knows how to stop. he proceeds to apply the brakes. BUT WAIT!! All that warm tar stuck to his wheels! He's got no rubber to stop on!! His front end skitters around while he desperately flails his legs to keep the ride upright, the front is locked up tighter than a nun's ****. the rear wheel is starting to fish tail, and he;'s running out of road... soon the bike looses all traction and it's laid right on side with him to the side, sliding with it, right into traffic.

the rest is history.

All motorcycles are dangerous. it's a risk we all take. True the story has little to do with power, and much to do about common road hazards but the outcome is all the same. Too much power can lead to catastrophic loss. An unintentional wheelie caused by a concrete driveway lip sends the rider back into the seat, causing his untrained wrist to snap down hard on the throttle, sending him right into a brick wall. a car that pulls out from an ally right in front of you causes the untrained and shaking fist to lock the front brake ending in an endo. you awake lying in a hospital bed unable to move your arms or legs because the motorcycle landed on the back of your neck. Target fixation causes you to wander too far outside a country curve sending you flying to the woods, a telephone poll, or a barbed wire fence at 60mph.

and when you gain back your cognitive memory, to reflect on what happened and the decisions you made. every 1st time accident story i've heard always came back to the same conclusion time and time again:

"I wish i started smaller..."

and now they'll never have the chance to ride again, because they are either too ****ed up to ride, or are no longer breathing.

it's your ****ing choice. It's your life. It's
 
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Old 10-06-2006 | 01:36 AM
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I dont waste my attention on immature responses. But based on the first couple sentences of your child-like response...

Maybe it skipped your mind but some people ride using good sense.

Just because the guy is inquiring about a sport bike doesnt mean he will be doing power-ups ,burn-outs, and anything close to full throttle on day one let alone day 60.

A sensible rider would have just as much of a chance getting into an accident with a CBR600RR or a SV650.

Maybe i just cant comprehend your response. How could someone be so immature and go psycho on the bike? Not everybody thinks the way you do.

Immature? Do you read?! Are you just pissed because i called you possibly retarded? I think you are, and you're responding in a very emo way. What i said was 100% responsible. It may not have been polite,m and maybe that's where you get the immaturity from, but immature people are usually farting poor advice out their mouth and sticking to their guns about it, and then get childish like saying things such as, "Oh yeah? your momma." or "You suck so bad, i could whoop your *** any day of the week". things like that. i have not said such things. I may come off like a total ********, with a touch of pick, but sometimes you just need to be that way. probably comes from the military. Don't get worked up about it. It's damn good advice, and you know it.

I'm glad you say that some people ride using good sense. because some people do. I do. i know a few of my friends that do. but we've seen more >1 season riders do dumb **** with powerful bikes and totally **** it up than i care to recall. The truth is, that Most (not some, most) new riders are the ones screwing up bad on powerful bikes. Take a look (well, i suppose you can't really) at the other boards around the interweb. you've got you two basic types of rider forums: you've got your newbies, and you've got your power boards. now, granted the power forums (like 600rr, 1000rr, CBRF, etc) have more members, but look at the tally of newbie members to crashes, wrecks, deaths, and scary moments. it's overwhelming sometimes to look at some of those numbers. then go to your basic newbie forums where everyone rides an EX somethingorother or GS little bike and look how many of the same type of posts there are. make them a ratio. it blows my mind to look at it! It tells me that having a bike that has over 100HP and supersport style is NOT a bike newbies should learn on. period.

I never said anything about burnouts or intentional wheelies. I was talking about every day riding. You'd thank that turning a dike is such a trivial thing. Look above at the rider that didn't. he didn't have a clue. he thought it'd be like riding a bicycle. thank god he didn't try to man handle it. that would have been a high side right there... right into a guard rail at deadly speeds. he'd be dead. it's the little mistakes on these bikes that can send you flying! Most new riders i've seen get on the bike and have their wrist straight up in the air, thinking that they're going to need all the throttle to get going. once they find out how little they actually need, it's too late. the wheel comes up, rider slides back and straighten his wrist. rider loops with a 400 lbs bike raging down on him with a spinning wheel. you couldn't dream of doing that on an EX500 or GS500 nearly as easily. possible yes. likely no. the steering is so razor sharp on these bikes, it can catch you off guard. a sluggish steering can help guide you into doing the right thing and leaning with the bike, instead of standing on the forks trying to get the wheel to move while you head for the bush you're looking at and don't want to hit.

A sensible rider would make a sensible choice in what to ride when it comes to a new venture like motorcycling. True accidents can happen anywhere, anytime. but the amount of accidents ca
 


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