Lookin at the RR for my first
#62
RE: Lookin at the RR for my first
ORIGINAL: osin41
throttle control is not learned throttle control is being smart you wanna roll on the throttle you do it if not you don't its that simple
throttle control is not learned throttle control is being smart you wanna roll on the throttle you do it if not you don't its that simple
I took a Superbike class a few years ago, and I'm taking another one in November. Throttle control is the main concept they teach. Without it, you have nothing.
#64
RE: Lookin at the RR for my first
I was really considering getting the RR for my first bike....but after reading all of this im having strong second opinions about it. For once I think im going to actually take the advice that most people seem to be giving. I think I would be much better off starting on something a little smaller and much more inexpensive. I would not mindspending around $4k. But what would be a good bike to start on. I do have lots of experience with 4-wheelers and dirt bikes......and I would not want something that is a complete POS...and dog a$s slow. I was considering maybe a '95 suzuki rf600r.....someone has one for sale locally w/ 1.5k miles on it and he is asking $3k.....butwhat are some other good options that I should consider......and NO im not gettinga 250.
#65
RE: Lookin at the RR for my first
I took the MSF class about 5 years ago..... Right after, I bought a 87 Ninja 600... It was fast as hell (or so I thought at the time)... It taught me so much though... I learned to control my bike, and all aspects of it: throttle, handling, etc.... After about 6 months or so of owning it, I started modding it... It was like a new bike again, and I learned all over again... Slow and steady I started reaching the max capabilities of the bike.
Got rid of that bike, and picked up a '04f4i... Immediately I had to relearn everything. I was a rookie again... But, I took the time and learned my bike. A year later, I started modding that... Now, I have a modded f4i that I know how to handle, and I have fun on it whenever I go out, without having to worry about losing control of it. Also, even with my "old" f4i that doesnt compare to any of the 07 600s, I still can go plenty fast, and I will probably NEVER hit the limits of the bike...
Seriously, if you want to ride a sport bike, go buy some old *** late 80 or early 90s sport bike and learn on that... those bikes are quite forgiving, and wont be as fast to set you up with a meeting with the asphalt. Ride for a year, and then THINK about picking up a newer bike.... It took me a few years before I felt like I was ready, but that time I spent on something that wasnt aesthetically pleasing has kept my skin in a form that is somewhat decent (Im hella ugly, but nothing can change that!).
Also, another thing to think about is what riding is about... The best thing I can tell you is that speed means nothing. Any ******* can hop on a bike and go 150... Riding is a romantic dance... Its all about grace. The feeling of taking twisties and knowing you took the perfect line, at the perfect speed is a feeling second to none. Eventually, the speed just comes naturally.
Got rid of that bike, and picked up a '04f4i... Immediately I had to relearn everything. I was a rookie again... But, I took the time and learned my bike. A year later, I started modding that... Now, I have a modded f4i that I know how to handle, and I have fun on it whenever I go out, without having to worry about losing control of it. Also, even with my "old" f4i that doesnt compare to any of the 07 600s, I still can go plenty fast, and I will probably NEVER hit the limits of the bike...
Seriously, if you want to ride a sport bike, go buy some old *** late 80 or early 90s sport bike and learn on that... those bikes are quite forgiving, and wont be as fast to set you up with a meeting with the asphalt. Ride for a year, and then THINK about picking up a newer bike.... It took me a few years before I felt like I was ready, but that time I spent on something that wasnt aesthetically pleasing has kept my skin in a form that is somewhat decent (Im hella ugly, but nothing can change that!).
Also, another thing to think about is what riding is about... The best thing I can tell you is that speed means nothing. Any ******* can hop on a bike and go 150... Riding is a romantic dance... Its all about grace. The feeling of taking twisties and knowing you took the perfect line, at the perfect speed is a feeling second to none. Eventually, the speed just comes naturally.
#66
RE: Lookin at the RR for my first
Thanks for the advice.......what your saying is whatI have finally come to realization about...I was sooooo close to dropping about $7k on wednesday....and now I must have had a bad dream or something but ive decided to take it slow...ill have plenty of time and $ next year to get something nice (starting a new job next month) so id like to take the time this year to get some good exp. under my belt.
Back to my last thread....what are some good options for starter bikes around or under $4k?
Back to my last thread....what are some good options for starter bikes around or under $4k?
#67
RE: Lookin at the RR for my first
ORIGINAL: riderx420
Thanks for the advice.......what your saying is what I have finally come to realization about...I was sooooo close to dropping about $7k on wednesday....and now I must have had a bad dream or something but ive decided to take it slow...ill have plenty of time and $ next year to get something nice (starting a new job next month) so id like to take the time this year to get some good exp. under my belt.
Back to my last thread....what are some good options for starter bikes around or under $4k?
Thanks for the advice.......what your saying is what I have finally come to realization about...I was sooooo close to dropping about $7k on wednesday....and now I must have had a bad dream or something but ive decided to take it slow...ill have plenty of time and $ next year to get something nice (starting a new job next month) so id like to take the time this year to get some good exp. under my belt.
Back to my last thread....what are some good options for starter bikes around or under $4k?
#68
RE: Lookin at the RR for my first
Nice thread. I've been riding bikes since 1966...a Honda 305 dream. Got a CB750 in 1969....lots of power for the time...brakes great for the time. Needed something a little more modern, so I bought the F4I in Jan. Wow, times have changed. Within one block, I managed to do an unintended stoppee......gees, this thing has really good brakes! OOPS, damn, that throttle is really touchy!
I now have about 3,000 miles on the bike. It took me about two months to adapt to the characteristics of the bike...at least at the speeds I ride at. I will never push the limits of the bike intentionally. For me it is a fun bike and handles great...I love it. I have learned to use...at most...two fingers on the front brake and eassssy on the power.
My biggest problem is going between the older Honda's that I still ride regularly and the F4I. It's like going from an old VW to a Corvette.
My advice to a new rider has already been stated. Learn the dynamics of riding first on a forgiving bike. If you think you will be embarassed in front of your friends, go find a big parking lot and practice on your own. Friends who would advice you to get a powerful sport bike as a first bike are like those who would try to get you to start smoking.
Jim
I now have about 3,000 miles on the bike. It took me about two months to adapt to the characteristics of the bike...at least at the speeds I ride at. I will never push the limits of the bike intentionally. For me it is a fun bike and handles great...I love it. I have learned to use...at most...two fingers on the front brake and eassssy on the power.
My biggest problem is going between the older Honda's that I still ride regularly and the F4I. It's like going from an old VW to a Corvette.
My advice to a new rider has already been stated. Learn the dynamics of riding first on a forgiving bike. If you think you will be embarassed in front of your friends, go find a big parking lot and practice on your own. Friends who would advice you to get a powerful sport bike as a first bike are like those who would try to get you to start smoking.
Jim
#69
RE: Lookin at the RR for my first
ORIGINAL: pell
look for anything from the late 80s early 90s.... 600cc.... CBR, Ninja, FZR, etc... Also, it'll probably only cost ya a couple grand.
ORIGINAL: riderx420
Thanks for the advice.......what your saying is whatI have finally come to realization about...I was sooooo close to dropping about $7k on wednesday....and now I must have had a bad dream or something but ive decided to take it slow...ill have plenty of time and $ next year to get something nice (starting a new job next month) so id like to take the time this year to get some good exp. under my belt.
Back to my last thread....what are some good options for starter bikes around or under $4k?
Thanks for the advice.......what your saying is whatI have finally come to realization about...I was sooooo close to dropping about $7k on wednesday....and now I must have had a bad dream or something but ive decided to take it slow...ill have plenty of time and $ next year to get something nice (starting a new job next month) so id like to take the time this year to get some good exp. under my belt.
Back to my last thread....what are some good options for starter bikes around or under $4k?
A 600 sportbike is not a beginner bike. Those bikes are still just as unforgiving now as they were back when they were new.
here are my suggestions for a first bike (in no particular order):
- Ninja 250
- Ninja 500
- CBR 400 (if you can find one)
- FZR 400 (if you can find one)
- Suzuki GS400 or 500
- Yamaha SecaII
there's also no reason that your first bike can't be a standard or other non-sportbike. Keep in mind that this is your first bike, not your last bike. A first bike should be something that is forgiving, will teach you the basics of riding, and something that can be dropped (without worry).