hi to all , i bought an cbr600fx that was in a bad shape it had key but no v5 (log book / pink slip) many weeks later iv got her nearly fit for the road and i have now done a text check and it comes up with no dvla or police records does this mean it has a clear title or would it have been written off the road all my engine frame numbers are intact tax disc is correct and last on the road in 2006 any help would be greatfull thanks

 

Am I understanding this correctly, that you don't have the "pink slip" i.e. Title? If so, you need to go back to the seller & get that paperwork ASAP. It will make things a lot easier.

If you've already verified that the bike doesn't have any liens, reported stolen, or otherwise, you most likely will be ok. But again, you really need that title to go an easily register/re-title it.

Not sure what your procedures are in England but here in the U.S., if you don't have a title, its very difficult to obtain a new title w/o considerable irritation, legwork, & fees.

If you can't obtain the actual title, at the very least, you need a Bill of Sale from the previous owner...& maybe that will allow you to obtain a title.

Really, not sure if any of the above applies in England but hopefully you'll get some answers from local to you members.

 

I bought a bike from a guy in Aus and he did not have a title for it. He had to go in to the DOT and get a copy issued. It took like 3 weeks to get it, but I just rode the bike with his plates on it for that time. Everything worked out in the end, but they refused to let me even apply for a title, they said the registered owner had to get a copy and sign it over to me.

 

Think without the V5, you wont be down as the registered owner and keeper of the vehicle, which i believe would void your insurance if you made a claim.

Not 100% certain but i remember when i insured my first car the guy on the phone explained I needed to be the registered owner to be the main insured user.

As far as i know about the text check services advertised, the right off's should come up on that, but if the previous owner trashed it and didn't declare then the insurance company would be none the wiser.

Personally i'd press the guy for the V5 slip, if its lost I think you can buy another from the DVLA, but if it turns out to be stolen they may seize it.

Did you buy it from a shop or from a private seller?

 

hi i bought the bike in a private sale but i do have a reciept of sale i thought because it had the key id be fine becasue of the hiss system but im gonna phone dvla in the morning and pray for the best lol cheers john

 

In the US (or at least here in AZ) you have some hoops to jump through but in the end you can get the title (provided it is not stolen.... if it is stolen/the title isn't clear, then call the cops now because you don't want it in your possession and you want to get the cops after the guy you bought it from).

Process for AZ bonded title:
- After the bike is running, you take it to the DMV and they run the numbers to verify that it is what you say it is.
- They give you the last known address of the last known "owner".
- You send a registered letter with delivery confirmation to that address stating that you have the bike and it will be titled in your name if he does not take legal action.
- If the "owner" objects, he has to take you to court and convince a judge to order the bike returned to him (which would cost him money and you would be able to request payment for your expenses related to getting it fixed).
- If the owner is no longer there or you don't hear from him in 7 days, you take proof of the letter mailing to the DMV and they give you some paperwork.
- You go to a bonding place (where they give title bonds, bail bonds, etc.) and pay 10% of the bonded value (bluebook value).
- You take proof of the bond to the DMV and they give you a bonded title. The DMV is now covered if the "owner" comes back and tries to sue them for giving you the title to "his" bike. You are not THE owner free and clear, forever.

I know this because it's what I will one day have to go through. The bike I got was left with a guy for over 2 years (it had been sitting for 2 years before that). The "owner" just dumped the bike on this guy and had him do work on it. The guy kept trying to get a hold of the "owner" (even through relatives of the "owner") but the "owner" refused to return contact and eventually left the state (what this guy thinks at least). So after 2 years this guy finally said to hell with it and posted it on craigslist to get it out of his shop. I checked with the DMV before I bought it confirming that the title was clear and that the last time it had been titled was almost 4 years ago (confirms what I was told from the guy I bought it off of). When I went to title it, the DMV told me the above process that I will need to go through and I confirmed it with a friend who has done it before.


Best of luck to you,
Chris

 

Having the HISS key doesn't mean anything - they could quite have easily broken into someones house and nicked the bike with the keys. Quite commonplace in fact. Also, did you buy from his/her house, or from the back of a battered van in an Asda car park at 4am on Sunday morning,?Go to the Police with the chassis/engine numbers and index plate, and ask them to check it out for you. Granted, if it's stolen they will likely seize the bike. Either that or pay to conduct a full HPI check, which costs about £40 I think. This will show up any write-offs etc.Depending on the category of write-off (if indeed it is a write off), you'll probably have to pay for the vehicle to be checked by VoSA prior to getting it back on the road, to make sure it's safe. You won't get insurance otherwise.You say it was in a 'bad shape' - how bad? Is it a smashed up track bike, or just a bit scuffed up? My knowledge of these things is quite limited, so I imagine someone will come along shortly and give better advice.