First and foremost thank you all for your concern and support in all this. The camaraderie and mutual respect I find on this site is unlike anything I've ever seen, and more than I would've expected when joining cbrf... In short you guys are GREAT!!!

Now for the post-fall inspection. While inspecting the bike for fall damage I noticed some hoses came undone in the fall (all fuel related from the carbs to the little plastic part directly under the gas tank, dunno what it's called it has a filter in it though, and the air ram plugs into it). The left side frame slider took the fall, it's rashed up a bit and a little bent but nothing too bad, I'm sure I can bend it back and retighten the bolt haven't given a real effort quite yet.

I recharged my battery, reconnected the hoses and did some clean up (oil had found its way onto and around these hoses and the carbs). I figured since there was no visible damage other than the aforementioned I should be able to start the bike right up?

Unfortunately that is not the case . No crank, no clicks from the battery, just one strong click when I press the starter button... might it be the tip sesnor? if so where would it be located??? Could I have done damage to the bike else where that would cause this?

all fuses check out and all preliminary diagnoses accounted for so I know it's nothing like that... can anyone help me get my baby running again? Might it be time for a new battery?

I'm working and in school, if I can avoid a trip to a repair shop, while learning the ins and outs of my bike in the process that would be preferable. I'm already considering having the bike towed someplace... I'm losing my mind here lol TIA for any and all help.

 

Check that the starter relay is intact? Just throwing stuff out there... Loose cable on the starter??
Load test the battery?

 

Can you take pics of what hoses came undone. Also you might have flooded your engine with fuel so after you rule everything else out and its turning over but not starting try that. If no one else has gotten back to by tomorrow I can get to my bike and manual and help you out.

 

I posted this on your other thread but try this


That thing that had the filter in it is called the airbox. If its the huge black thing under the gas take with a bunch of hoses connected to it. Those things are easy to put back on. Also Does your lights come on if they do then the battery might be fine. I remember when my crazy ex kicked over my motorcycle mine wouldn't start either, turned out that I just needed to take the plugs out and clean them off because oil had gotten into the cylinders when it was on its side, Im guessing this is your problem. Pull your spark plugs (its a pain to do) and hit the starter with the plugs out. This should shoot any oil out of the cylinders. Make sure you put a towel or something over it so you dont spray oil everywhere, I did this to myself when i did it for the first time and covered my entire porch in oil LOL. Also clean the plugs off and chuck them back in, then recharge the battery and try to start it. If this doesn't work then i dont know. Also if there is oil in the cylinders then the bike will burn it while running so white smoke coming from the tail pipe will be normal for a little while until it all burns off. Hope this helps.

 

If it clicks but does not turn over it is electrical. Period.

What you most likely hearing is the starter relay. What you should check is your ground loop... check that the battery terminals are tight. Follow all ground wires and make sure they're good.

Additionally -- the bike won't start if it THINKS it is in gear/clutch/side stand. If the bike went over, very closely check the side stand and clutch "safety" switches.

How long since it was last running?

It must be either a low battery OR a break in the wiring. NOT a short -- a short would manifest as a blown fuse. Check all of your fuses to be sure -- if you don't have a means to test them - test them on a known good circuit (dash lights).

 

+1 to woot's comments, definetly a good starting point.
All things that should be looked at, regardless of whether they are the actual issue.

Ern

 

Thank you all! Given that the bike was one its side, and ended up there quite violently (not entirely dissimilar to someone kicking it over) I'm inclined to think it's just as ddavis said, oil found its way into my cylinders and onto my spark plugs. No spark, no start! It makes a lot of sense, given that spark plugs are an electrical component the single strong click would make sense. I'm going to go in tomorrow and clean them off, as well as any residual oil I find anywhere. I will also look into woot's suggestions as it seems logical to make sure none of the above mentioned were loosened or damaged in the fall.

The hoses that came undone in the fall were the five in the back of the air box, the large one and four small ones. They were easy to reattach and the box was just as easy to reset.

Have I mentioned lately how much I lOVE this site?! Thanks again guys

 

Well today I got under the gas tank, under the air box, around some hoses and managed to remove the spark plugs and clean em up. I couldn't get oil to shoot out like ddavis said, but I did clean out the cylinders to the best of my ability.

With the spark plugs removed I started bouncing the bike on its suspension... not sure why I did this just at my wit's end I suppose, wanting something to happen. Doing this caused a mixture of gas and oil (mostly gas) to shoot out of one or more, of the cylinders. I cleaned up then I put the spark plugs back in, and reconnected everything.

Before I move on I think I should mention that the bike started leaking gas while I was working on the spark plugs. I mounted the bike holding it straight up between my legs during while removing the spark plugs... I will attach links to some pictures of this.

After putting the spark plugs in and reconnecting it all, I tried to start her up. She cranked once, for what I think was one revolution, then stopped. I tried to start her back up and back to the single strong click.

Given my findings today I'm inclined to think that the issue is with what I think may be a flooded engine, and trying to start it results in an oily/gas mixture on the spark plugs... any suggestions? Any thoughts on the leaking gas?

IMG_0714.jpg picture by galequin - Photobucket

IMG_0714.jpg picture by galequin - Photobucket

IMG_0714.jpg picture by galequin - Photobucket

Pictures taken on ipod, sorry in advance for the quality, and lighting

 

I would say say start with what woot said if that doesn't work; you have a multimeter?

 

Possible float stuck open? You should not have gas flowing out around the header.

If it's flooded, to the point of gas running out the header, it may be hydralic-lock.
ie the cylinder is full of gasoline (which does not compress) and it's keeping the
engine from turning over. You may have to pull the carbs and check that the floats are
operating properly. First, possibly get a turkey baster + hose, see if you can draw all
of the fluid out of the clylinders thru the spark-plug holes. Then leaving all of the plugs
out, see if it will turn over. This is a little out of my normal area of competence,
so you might wait to see if CJ, Woot, estate or one of the other carb-guru's can
chime in on my comments, before venturing in that direction.

Regardless, no smoking and be cool with any kind of spark, till you get this straightened out. I don't want to read about this on CNN, lol.

Good luck, Ern