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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 01:55 PM
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First I apologize for asking for information I know is somewhere in these pages. I know because I read it at some point but have been unable to relocate the post(s).
I am looking to replace the fuel filter and fuel pump on my 96. Budget restraints prohibit buying the Honda factory pump. I think someone had mentioned getting a Mr Gasket or Delco pump that was much better than the $18 ebay or Amazon product, but much less expensive than the OEM. It would be great if it was roughly same dimensions so I could use the rubber sleeve for mounting purposes. Wondering the same on the fuel filter. Is there a reasonably priced unit that will fit where the factory one is now and use the same fuel lines and rubber sleeve mount?

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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 02:53 PM
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What problems are you having?
How do you know pump needs replacing?

This should work:
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Originally Posted by dannoxyz
What problems are you having?
How do you know pump needs replacing?

This should work: https://www.amazon.com/Assembly-Comp.../dp/B0BRVYNYP1
Thank you. Although the bike has less than 3,000 mi on it it's sat for nearly a decade before I inherited it. So far I've cleaned out the tank and just assuming that the pump and filter need replaced after this kind of time frame and after seeing what was in the tank.
I did just see that there was a jumper I can put on the relay and then measure the output of the pump so I'm going to try that first to see what I'm looking at in GPM.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 05:29 PM
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Do flow test and make sure problem is limited flow.
Disconnect fuel-hose from carb-inlet and aim into measuring cup.
No need to jumper relay, just crank for 10s.
How much petrol did you collect?

Similar to this test, but measure from fuel-hose going into carbs.


Then do another with fuel-filtre removed. Might just be clogged filtre.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dannoxyz
Do flow test and make sure problem is limited flow.
Disconnect fuel-hose from carb-inlet and aim into measuring cup.
No need to jumper relay, just crank for 10s.
How much petrol did you collect?

Similar to this test, but measure from fuel-hose going into carbs.


Then do another with fuel-filtre removed. Might just be clogged filtre.
I do not have a vacuum hand pump. I thought I could just measure how much petrol is coming out of the fuel pump when pushing starter button?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 07:55 PM
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Start-button turns on fuel-pump.
Spinning engine generates vacuum to open petcock.
An all in one test!

If you can same flow with and without filtre, it's good.
If you have low-flow, then we can start testing individual components: tank, petcock, pump, hoses, etc.

Do you have spark?
If so, squirt 2-3cc petrol into airbox, wait 15s, then start bike.
Does it run?

By narrowing down to individual issues, we can limit number of parts that need replacing.

 
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Originally Posted by dannoxyz
Start-button turns on fuel-pump.
Spinning engine generates vacuum to open petcock.
An all in one test!

If you can same flow with and without filtre, it's good.
If you have low-flow, then we can start testing individual components: tank, petcock, pump, hoses, etc.

Do you have spark?
If so, squirt 2-3cc petrol into airbox, wait 15s, then start bike.
Does it run?

By narrowing down to individual issues, we can limit number of parts that need replacing.

I do have spark. However as soon as I added a couple gallons of fuel to the tank and turn the petcock to the on position I have a leak coming from the fuel pump. And not from where I would expect it at the hoses. It is leaking from the body itself. I removed the rubber holder and saw that it's coming from the seams of the fuel pump itself. It does slowly stop leaking if I turn the petcock to off. But in either of the other two positions it drips out pretty good. Seems pretty odd to me that it would leak there but I am definitely not an experienced mechanic.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 11:10 PM
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Get factory service manual, really helpful to troubleshoot and fix-it how-tos for everything.

Was petcock flowing in ON or RES position? Should not flow in ON until it has vacuum from spinning engine.

Yeah, pump probably defective.

Some people have removed pump and connected petcock directly to carb inlet (gravity feed). That only works for full to 1/2 tank. Not enough weight after that to push fuel into carbs. Can give that a try til you get new pump.
 

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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dannoxyz
Get factory service manual, really helpful to troubleshoot and fix-it how-tos for everything.

Was petcock flowing in ON or RES position? Should not flow in ON until it has vacuum from spinning engine.

Yeah, pump probably defective.

Some people have removed pump and connected petcock directly to carb inlet (gravity feed). That only works for full to 1/2 tank. Not enough weight after that to push fuel into carbs. Can give that a try til you get new pump.
Thank you for the reply. I'm not sure if I follow the question about if the "petcock was flowing in the ON or RES position".
If you are asking was it one or the other when I was getting the fuel leak, The answer would be "both". Steady leak from the fuel pump when the petcock was set to either on or reserve. The steady fuel leak from the fuel pump only stopped if petcock set to off position.
And thank you for the advice about the manual I was able to get a digital download of the service manual so hopefully that will help me out a bit. And I will likely try bypassing the fuel pump like you mentioned to see if she will start, well I research fuel pump options and pricing.
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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 04:25 PM
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Petcock also needs rebuild since vacuum-diaphragm isn't working. In ON position, it should not flow any petrol until engine is spinning to develop vacuum.

https://www.denniskirk.com/petcock-p...a-cbr600f2.mmy

https://www.partsgiant.com/p388180-p...ly-rebuild-kit

Amazon - All ***** petcock rebuild kit Amazon - All ***** petcock rebuild kit

Should also verify you have factory OEM petcock. May have been replaced with something else that's broken.
 

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