turbo f2 ?
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RE: turbo f2 ?
Dude, I know you're looking for more power, and that's fine. You're a little light on bikeknowledge, and that's ok too. We all have to start somewhere. Honestly, you seem to have real enthusiasm for your F2, and that's admirable.
I don't mean to offend if I'm wrong, but let me guess as to your situation here. You ride your white F2 with your buddies, who mostly have faster, newer bikes, right? You seem to have a little trouble keeping up with them, and you want to find ways tomake your bike a little faster. Am I hittin' close to home?
Let's think aboutwhat a turbo would most likely do to your bikeif you really went through with the modification. As you would start to accelerate off the line,you would most likely not see any power boost until close to about 5,000 rpm (turbo lag). Then, you experience a jolt of power that hits pretty hard and lasts through higher rpm's, and that's probably the best single-turbo option. Now, if you decide to go with a smaller turbo, it might only give you a boost off the line, and if you go with a larger one, most of your powerwould beseen in higher rpm's. Either way, you losethe relativelysmooth powerband your bike was designedwith and gain a spiked, inconsistent power profile. If you modify the bike for drag racing; e.g. lower it, extend swingarm, run a larger wheel/tire combo on the rear (requires replacement of swingarm to allow for more clearance), this could be ok, but for street riding, this ispotentially dangerous. Here's why: If you are going around a turn and hit the throttle while at a decent lean angle, you could loose traction from the boost and lowside.A few other potential problems with jolts of power on a bikecould be a surprise power wheelie, or a burnout at highway speeds, neither of which sound like fun if you're not expecting them.
Now a twin turbo setup (one for low rpm's and one for high) could help smooth out spikes in the powerband, but would be more costly, and would still require some of the above modifications to actually transfer that powerto the road.
Realize that regardless how you set it up, turbocharging your bike would cost more than the vehicle is worth, so from an economical standpoint, it doesn't make any sense. Also, because of the inconsistencies inherent in a turbocharged system, I think it's potentially dangerous.
I think you should get a newer 600 in a few years (the 600rr's are awesome!). Until then, keep on riding your F2. It's a very consistent, dependable, well rounded sportbike. With experience, your bike can beat pretty much anything on the road. Patience, grasshopper. Believe me, I'm stilldeveloping this virtuemyself.
I don't mean to offend if I'm wrong, but let me guess as to your situation here. You ride your white F2 with your buddies, who mostly have faster, newer bikes, right? You seem to have a little trouble keeping up with them, and you want to find ways tomake your bike a little faster. Am I hittin' close to home?
Let's think aboutwhat a turbo would most likely do to your bikeif you really went through with the modification. As you would start to accelerate off the line,you would most likely not see any power boost until close to about 5,000 rpm (turbo lag). Then, you experience a jolt of power that hits pretty hard and lasts through higher rpm's, and that's probably the best single-turbo option. Now, if you decide to go with a smaller turbo, it might only give you a boost off the line, and if you go with a larger one, most of your powerwould beseen in higher rpm's. Either way, you losethe relativelysmooth powerband your bike was designedwith and gain a spiked, inconsistent power profile. If you modify the bike for drag racing; e.g. lower it, extend swingarm, run a larger wheel/tire combo on the rear (requires replacement of swingarm to allow for more clearance), this could be ok, but for street riding, this ispotentially dangerous. Here's why: If you are going around a turn and hit the throttle while at a decent lean angle, you could loose traction from the boost and lowside.A few other potential problems with jolts of power on a bikecould be a surprise power wheelie, or a burnout at highway speeds, neither of which sound like fun if you're not expecting them.
Now a twin turbo setup (one for low rpm's and one for high) could help smooth out spikes in the powerband, but would be more costly, and would still require some of the above modifications to actually transfer that powerto the road.
Realize that regardless how you set it up, turbocharging your bike would cost more than the vehicle is worth, so from an economical standpoint, it doesn't make any sense. Also, because of the inconsistencies inherent in a turbocharged system, I think it's potentially dangerous.
I think you should get a newer 600 in a few years (the 600rr's are awesome!). Until then, keep on riding your F2. It's a very consistent, dependable, well rounded sportbike. With experience, your bike can beat pretty much anything on the road. Patience, grasshopper. Believe me, I'm stilldeveloping this virtuemyself.
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RE: turbo f2 ?
wow lol......no one answered his question, all he got was slammed....
he diddint ask if it was a good idea or nothe just wanted some information on turbos for his bike.but hewas wrong about the ecu stuff and asking where to get it chippped....mabye he doesn't want to pay a rediclous price for a new 600 or bigger bike that looses half its value in just a few years/miles. and honestly i dont know where to get turbos for these foreignbikes at the momenti dont have any cataloguesfor them yet. i do know that i got my 94' f2 with 8k on it for $500 3 days ago and all i have to do is get new plastics to make it look right,and thats $200... it runs and drives fineso if he has gotten his bike at a reasonable price like me i would turbo it if i had the extra money.. i mean its 1/8 of the price lol of putting a turbo on a new say 600ccbike that has just 25% or so more hp...
im new to this forum to, but i do know that anything can be found on the internet. so look on there man and turbo that thing
he diddint ask if it was a good idea or nothe just wanted some information on turbos for his bike.but hewas wrong about the ecu stuff and asking where to get it chippped....mabye he doesn't want to pay a rediclous price for a new 600 or bigger bike that looses half its value in just a few years/miles. and honestly i dont know where to get turbos for these foreignbikes at the momenti dont have any cataloguesfor them yet. i do know that i got my 94' f2 with 8k on it for $500 3 days ago and all i have to do is get new plastics to make it look right,and thats $200... it runs and drives fineso if he has gotten his bike at a reasonable price like me i would turbo it if i had the extra money.. i mean its 1/8 of the price lol of putting a turbo on a new say 600ccbike that has just 25% or so more hp...
im new to this forum to, but i do know that anything can be found on the internet. so look on there man and turbo that thing
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RE: turbo f2 ?
ORIGINAL: toyvette81
wow lol......no one answered his question, all he got was slammed....
wow lol......no one answered his question, all he got was slammed....
Sorry, but you really asked to be treated like a no0b.
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RE: turbo f2 ?
Jerks.
It's possible to put a turbo on anything. If you want to do it yourself, do it. If you want to have a shop install a turbo kit, ....way too much money.
Since there is no ecu, you don't need to reflash or anything like that. It might help though to get an ignition advancer/retarder. It'll help tuning. These are getting harder and harder to find for an F2, but they are out there.
Without converting to fuel injection, the best/easiest set-up would be a blow through. Mount a turbo under the tail (more lag), or down where the headers come out of the block. You'll have to find a turbo suitable for a 600cc high revving engine by anaylzing compressor maps. Run the exhaust like normal. Run an intake pipe up to the airbox. You'll have to custom make an airbox by the way. Finally, there are several mods you'll have to make to the carbs if you want to run boost higher than about 4 psi. Like Nitrile floats, new overly rich jetting, etc. It'll be a lot of work to get it to run properly. You'll need a wideband O2 sensor to watch for lean running, and a boost gauge to make sure your carbs don't explode.
That's a glimpse of what needs to be done. Have fun!
It's possible to put a turbo on anything. If you want to do it yourself, do it. If you want to have a shop install a turbo kit, ....way too much money.
Since there is no ecu, you don't need to reflash or anything like that. It might help though to get an ignition advancer/retarder. It'll help tuning. These are getting harder and harder to find for an F2, but they are out there.
Without converting to fuel injection, the best/easiest set-up would be a blow through. Mount a turbo under the tail (more lag), or down where the headers come out of the block. You'll have to find a turbo suitable for a 600cc high revving engine by anaylzing compressor maps. Run the exhaust like normal. Run an intake pipe up to the airbox. You'll have to custom make an airbox by the way. Finally, there are several mods you'll have to make to the carbs if you want to run boost higher than about 4 psi. Like Nitrile floats, new overly rich jetting, etc. It'll be a lot of work to get it to run properly. You'll need a wideband O2 sensor to watch for lean running, and a boost gauge to make sure your carbs don't explode.
That's a glimpse of what needs to be done. Have fun!
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RE: turbo f2 ?
ORIGINAL: toyvette81
wow lol......no one answered his question, all he got was slammed....
wow lol......no one answered his question, all he got was slammed....
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RE: turbo f2 ?
thank you cadaver... and "theX" i did answer the best i could i was actually nice to the guy and gave him some confidense clearly in my reply to him i said "i honestly dont know where to get turbos" the good deal on my bike wasnt all i told him it wasyet afraction of my post (2lines)what you said was completly and100% wrong "hahaha no0b"
whats wrong with just giving someone some motivation?! even if i didn't know the answer?
whats wrong with just giving someone some motivation?! even if i didn't know the answer?