Spark plug, coil connections and mat
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Spark plug, coil connections and mat
While working with my son on his F2 we found some things.
Seemed like 2 plugs were swapped. #1 was in the #2 cylinder and #2 was in #1 cylinder. We have corrected that. What I am wondering about is the connection on the coil for spark plug/cylinder #1 and #4. From looking at the Clymers manual the connections on the coil is reversed from how they are connected now. Should they be swapped?
Also wondering about the electicial connections on the coils. From the Clymers it is hard to tell which color wire goes on which terminal on the coils. I can not see anywhere on the coil that there is any specific indication to match the wires to one particular terminal. How should the electicial connections go for the coils?
And for the last thing, there is a rubber mat, for lack of a better description, that is connected to the top of the frame and lays somehow - someway at the top of the engine. Should this mat go to protect the front of the engine from water and stuff or should it sit over top of the spark plug wires and coils or should it lay to go just over the engine but under the coils? I am concerned about putting it in some places due to it may melt.
Thank you for any assistance.
Tim "Two Wrecks"
Seemed like 2 plugs were swapped. #1 was in the #2 cylinder and #2 was in #1 cylinder. We have corrected that. What I am wondering about is the connection on the coil for spark plug/cylinder #1 and #4. From looking at the Clymers manual the connections on the coil is reversed from how they are connected now. Should they be swapped?
Also wondering about the electicial connections on the coils. From the Clymers it is hard to tell which color wire goes on which terminal on the coils. I can not see anywhere on the coil that there is any specific indication to match the wires to one particular terminal. How should the electicial connections go for the coils?
And for the last thing, there is a rubber mat, for lack of a better description, that is connected to the top of the frame and lays somehow - someway at the top of the engine. Should this mat go to protect the front of the engine from water and stuff or should it sit over top of the spark plug wires and coils or should it lay to go just over the engine but under the coils? I am concerned about putting it in some places due to it may melt.
Thank you for any assistance.
Tim "Two Wrecks"
#2
As far as the ignition coils go I know that cylinder #1 and #4 got to one coil and #2 and #3 to the 2nd.
As far as that rubber piece its very important. Its purpose is to separate heat from the intake that is right above the spark plugs.
In my case it makes a nice curve over the spark plugs and does not touch the engine anywhere.
As far as that rubber piece its very important. Its purpose is to separate heat from the intake that is right above the spark plugs.
In my case it makes a nice curve over the spark plugs and does not touch the engine anywhere.
#3
While working with my son on his F2 we found some things.
Seemed like 2 plugs were swapped. #1 was in the #2 cylinder and #2 was in #1 cylinder. We have corrected that. What I am wondering about is the connection on the coil for spark plug/cylinder #1 and #4. From looking at the Clymers manual the connections on the coil is reversed from how they are connected now. Should they be swapped?
Also wondering about the electicial connections on the coils. From the Clymers it is hard to tell which color wire goes on which terminal on the coils. I can not see anywhere on the coil that there is any specific indication to match the wires to one particular terminal. How should the electicial connections go for the coils?
And for the last thing, there is a rubber mat, for lack of a better description, that is connected to the top of the frame and lays somehow - someway at the top of the engine. Should this mat go to protect the front of the engine from water and stuff or should it sit over top of the spark plug wires and coils or should it lay to go just over the engine but under the coils? I am concerned about putting it in some places due to it may melt.
Thank you for any assistance.
Tim "Two Wrecks"
Seemed like 2 plugs were swapped. #1 was in the #2 cylinder and #2 was in #1 cylinder. We have corrected that. What I am wondering about is the connection on the coil for spark plug/cylinder #1 and #4. From looking at the Clymers manual the connections on the coil is reversed from how they are connected now. Should they be swapped?
Also wondering about the electicial connections on the coils. From the Clymers it is hard to tell which color wire goes on which terminal on the coils. I can not see anywhere on the coil that there is any specific indication to match the wires to one particular terminal. How should the electicial connections go for the coils?
And for the last thing, there is a rubber mat, for lack of a better description, that is connected to the top of the frame and lays somehow - someway at the top of the engine. Should this mat go to protect the front of the engine from water and stuff or should it sit over top of the spark plug wires and coils or should it lay to go just over the engine but under the coils? I am concerned about putting it in some places due to it may melt.
Thank you for any assistance.
Tim "Two Wrecks"
Sitting on the bike facing forward looking down at engine.
Cylinders
1-2-3-4
Firing order = 1243
Left coil
top wire > cylinder 3
bottom wire > cylinder 2
Right coil
top wire > cylinder 4
bottom wire > cylinder 1
I thought the coil wires only fit 1 way... like each connector was different sizes. Not sure though, its been years since I fiddled with them
#4
As far as the ignition coils go I know that cylinder #1 and #4 got to one coil and #2 and #3 to the 2nd.
As far as that rubber piece its very important. Its purpose is to separate heat from the intake that is right above the spark plugs.
In my case it makes a nice curve over the spark plugs and does not touch the engine anywhere.
As far as that rubber piece its very important. Its purpose is to separate heat from the intake that is right above the spark plugs.
In my case it makes a nice curve over the spark plugs and does not touch the engine anywhere.
Thanks for the insight on the rubber piece. So it seperates the air intake but does it go under the cross piece that the coils are on or should it come up and over the coils? I guess maybe a picture would help. Does anyone have one I could see?
About the shop manual, the Clymers and Clymers for a F2 and all for my bike. The service manual and Clymers for my bike has better info and in more detail than both for the F2. Not sure why. I know the Clymers came out years after my bike due to low demand proabably. My son does have the Honda Service Manual. It has good diagrams but less info about what to do which is about correct for a service manual since a person doing service on bikes should have a good foundation. Unfortuanately all my fooundation is on 2 specific bikes and I am missing somethings for working on the F2 that I thought I should be able to deduce or pickup between the Service Manual and the Clymers. I would say with the Clymers and service manual for my bike I get about 90% of the stuff and with the F2 I get about 75%. This is one of the reasons I finid forums so helpful. There are people on forums that have more experience that can assist when needed. I just want to get him correct with the rubber piece so he does not get in some bad habits and sets it up where some things could go wrong. Sorry for being a little wordy.
#5
Left coil
top wire > cylinder 3
bottom wire > cylinder 2
Right coil
top wire > cylinder 4
bottom wire > cylinder 1
top wire > cylinder 3
bottom wire > cylinder 2
Right coil
top wire > cylinder 4
bottom wire > cylinder 1
I thought the coil wires only fit 1 way... like each connector was different sizes. Not sure though, its been years since I fiddled with them
Going through the Clymers and service manual I found something that shows me some stuff about the rubber piece. On page 288 of the Clymers I see peice sitting under the ignition coils. It sort of looks like it is laying against the side of the valve cover. I think I still need to see someone elses bike to get a good idea or pictures.
#6
Look at the pictures here. It may answer some of your questions.
https://cbrforum.com/forum/f2-tech-93/carburetor-cleaning-tuning-101-a-96888/
https://cbrforum.com/forum/f2-tech-93/carburetor-cleaning-tuning-101-a-96888/
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