Why does my bike start so hard?!
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Why does my bike start so hard?!
I'll try to keep this short. So last fall, we had a very windy night and somehow my 1990 Hurricane tipped over from it (I found it laying down in the morning). It was right before I was going to store it for the winter, so I just filled it up with gas, put some Stabil in it and then rode it to a garage where it stayed all winter. I also took the battery out and kept it in my house.
This year when I went to get it, I put the battery back in. It was basically dead, which I wasn't too sure why because it was stored indoors, but jumper cables of course brought the bike to life. I then rode it a few miles to my house, and shut it off. I thought the battery would have charged some, but it was basically dead! I noticed the fluid was low, probably from when it tipped over. The battery was pretty old from what I know, so I just decided to buy a new one.
Since that first time riding, even with jumper cables and the starter cranking fast, the bike takes FOREVER to start. For awhile it wouldn't start at all, but realized the gas wasn't the best. We siphoned as much as we could out, and then put a fresh tank in. At first it doesn't do much of anything, then you slowly begin hearing a few bubbles from the exhaust. It gets better and better very slowly until it somewhat begins to run, however the starter needs to be engaged or it won't stay running. Eventually it will stay running, and then begins to run perfectly normal. This is after like MINUTES of cranking on the starter, which I feel pretty bad about. Once it gets warm, I can shut it off and it will start right back up, even if it's been sitting for an hour or two after a decent ride.
What I don't get is, why does it only start so hard when the engine is cold?! I put some Seafoam in, with the same results. Does it have something to do with it tipping over (btw, it ran perfect before I stored it for the winter)? The tank of fresh gas is almost empty now and I was hoping it would be getting better, but it hasn't.
Sorry this is so long! I wanted to make sure It had details. haha
Zach
This year when I went to get it, I put the battery back in. It was basically dead, which I wasn't too sure why because it was stored indoors, but jumper cables of course brought the bike to life. I then rode it a few miles to my house, and shut it off. I thought the battery would have charged some, but it was basically dead! I noticed the fluid was low, probably from when it tipped over. The battery was pretty old from what I know, so I just decided to buy a new one.
Since that first time riding, even with jumper cables and the starter cranking fast, the bike takes FOREVER to start. For awhile it wouldn't start at all, but realized the gas wasn't the best. We siphoned as much as we could out, and then put a fresh tank in. At first it doesn't do much of anything, then you slowly begin hearing a few bubbles from the exhaust. It gets better and better very slowly until it somewhat begins to run, however the starter needs to be engaged or it won't stay running. Eventually it will stay running, and then begins to run perfectly normal. This is after like MINUTES of cranking on the starter, which I feel pretty bad about. Once it gets warm, I can shut it off and it will start right back up, even if it's been sitting for an hour or two after a decent ride.
What I don't get is, why does it only start so hard when the engine is cold?! I put some Seafoam in, with the same results. Does it have something to do with it tipping over (btw, it ran perfect before I stored it for the winter)? The tank of fresh gas is almost empty now and I was hoping it would be getting better, but it hasn't.
Sorry this is so long! I wanted to make sure It had details. haha
Zach
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Hey there Zach ,
if it is a gas problem you could try putting in some carb cleaner with your next tank of fuel.
Does the engine spin properly when you crank it with the starter motor , or does it wheeze like this (check out the video link)
if it is a gas problem you could try putting in some carb cleaner with your next tank of fuel.
Does the engine spin properly when you crank it with the starter motor , or does it wheeze like this (check out the video link)
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Hey, do you think carb cleaner would do a lot different than Seafoam? Because I did put some of that in. Also, my bike doesn't sound like that at all! It sounds exactly the way I expect it too, it just isn't starting...for a very long time at least. If it was something with the carbs or gas, is there a reason that it starts perfectly once the engine is warm?
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
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I think the key word here is "battery"..
If yours is a bit old , lost fluid , went flat over winter and all you have done is jump started it..with cables ..I would get the thing charged up fully (not while riding) then get it checked properly for cell damage and its holding charge capabilities...
These old girls need a good fully charged battery to run properly...
If she was ok before winter , that will be the problem prolly .. whether it makes sense or not..
If yours is a bit old , lost fluid , went flat over winter and all you have done is jump started it..with cables ..I would get the thing charged up fully (not while riding) then get it checked properly for cell damage and its holding charge capabilities...
These old girls need a good fully charged battery to run properly...
If she was ok before winter , that will be the problem prolly .. whether it makes sense or not..
Last edited by CBRclassic; 05-07-2009 at 05:56 PM.
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I'm inclined to agree with CBRClassic on this one. These bikes like a lot of power, and with already weak charging/spark systems, they tend to be hard to start without a good battery.
Batteries can do weird things to bikes (and cars).
When my battery died in the CBR last year, it was hard as hell to get going. It would crank and crank. I also rode like 50miles once, only to find a copletely dead battery on arrival... to the point where the bike was stumbling and stuttering.
Batteries can do weird things to bikes (and cars).
When my battery died in the CBR last year, it was hard as hell to get going. It would crank and crank. I also rode like 50miles once, only to find a copletely dead battery on arrival... to the point where the bike was stumbling and stuttering.
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Try this
Ok, you said that you got a new battery. So, let's assume the battery is good, because it keeps cranking the engine over. If it were electrical, it would either start or not. So, it starts over time. We have eliminated a few things.
Try this. Charge your battery up to full charge. Turn on the petcock. Don't put the choke on. Just leave the choke in the run mode. Crank your engine over for 3 seconds or so. Stop. Wait 1/2 a minute. Repeat. Then go in and get a glass of JD or Jimmy Black. Come back out and put the choke on. Make sure the bike is on the center stand. Now with the choke on, try cranking it over. If you get an immediate "try to start stumble" engine turn over, then it dies, you have a vacuum to petcock problem.
Take that little vacuum line off the petcock and use a hand held vacuum pump. Oh, don't have one? Well, then get a long vacuum hose and tell your neighbor "suck on this babe" and when she does, you have solved two problems in one quick test!
I believe your petcock is not getting full vacuum to allow fuel to flow to the carbs. Knowing your "good looking neighbor" will do the vacuum inhale test - priceless.....
Try this. Charge your battery up to full charge. Turn on the petcock. Don't put the choke on. Just leave the choke in the run mode. Crank your engine over for 3 seconds or so. Stop. Wait 1/2 a minute. Repeat. Then go in and get a glass of JD or Jimmy Black. Come back out and put the choke on. Make sure the bike is on the center stand. Now with the choke on, try cranking it over. If you get an immediate "try to start stumble" engine turn over, then it dies, you have a vacuum to petcock problem.
Take that little vacuum line off the petcock and use a hand held vacuum pump. Oh, don't have one? Well, then get a long vacuum hose and tell your neighbor "suck on this babe" and when she does, you have solved two problems in one quick test!
I believe your petcock is not getting full vacuum to allow fuel to flow to the carbs. Knowing your "good looking neighbor" will do the vacuum inhale test - priceless.....
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