How does the 1000f compare newer 600's? Well the bigger heavy bike keep up with these newer small bikes?

 

The newer 600's are faster.

 

Depends what you mean by "keeping up", but 15 years and 150 pounds makes a difference. The new replica racers make their power in the upper reaches. The 1000F makes it in the midrange. The new R6 brags about 17k rpm, but it has nothing below 6k. At 6k, my old 1000F has incredible acceleration.

If you're going to a racetrack with the new 600's, it won't keep up. If you do stoplight racing, you'll blow their doors off. If you're doing endurance, you'll pass them when they stop for gas. I've ridden in the mountains with 600RR's. Because of their weight and brakes, and possibly youthfullness, they go into the corners harder than me. But the 1000F comes out harder, especially on the steep uphill curves. I have no problem keeping up.

 

I don't know what Mr Freud would say about it, but who likes to ride all these gay's 600?

more ccm - more power -> that's the way it is!!!

 

Actually, more cubic centimeters equals more torque, and that's what's important on the street.

 

I ride with a lot of 600R bikes.. from a stop or a slow rolling start I can smoke them.. but once they are in the 6000 - 17000 RPM range.. Im SOL. Overall Top end, I can hold my own with them.

Just my thoughts/experience on the subject.

 

sure sure, but power is the function of torque and rpm right?

 

Correct, but its also about how that power is delivered.

600's and the newer 1000's have wider bores, but shorter stroke.
They also have lighter flywheels.

So they spin up quickly and slow down quickly Where as the CBR has a heavier flywheel so it doesn't spin up as quickly, but its smoother and once spun up it can maintain that rpm easier over variations in engine load (like hills etc).

Also even though the 600's can beat me on most places on the roads when we are doing high speed stuff over bumpy ground like country B roads because of the weight and the forgiving nature of steel frames I am a lot more stable.

 

By the nature of the question, I'll answer this way. Hope it helps.

Truth be told, it's mostly the rider, not the bike. If you're into straight highway blasts at way over a hundred MPH, get a Busa... and some deer whistles.... and some insurance. If that's not the game, which it usually isn't with experienced sportbike riders, it'll be the best rider and not the bike.

If you're a new rider you won't be keeping up with experienced riders who are working it a little bit no matter what you're on, or for that matter, what they're on. Any attempts to do so will get you hurt really bad. If they're new riders and out doing that stuff, stay away. You'll at least be the witness to an ungodly mess and at worst, the mess may be you. It's even uglier when it's one of your fellow riders taking you out... or you them.

If that doesn't apply, great! Maybe it'll help someone else. I've been at this a long time and I've seen WAAAAY too much of that. A new crop every year. Good luck with whatever you do.

BTW, I think these bikes are the best all around ride I've ever had. It's adequate in every area from cross-country touring to the occasional track day. In each specific category there's always something better but none I've ridden are better at satisfying ALL of the categories.

 

Well said, I agree with dad whole heartily on that. Also don't try to ride beyond your means just to keep up. If you crash it makes it a bummer
for all and really for you as it takes your learning curve back a few steps. Its better to ride a little behind when you start out and watch what your
smarter riding buddies do than (you know who they are) just blasting down the road with no thought as to the lines they are taking and
how fast they are going to get where they are going, over the top speeding tickets take the fun out too. I have owned a f2 and f4 cbr and they are
just easier to ride fast 1 up, but put a pax on the bike or a touring load and they cease to be as much fun, the CBR1k does find at most things and
comfort is 1 thing its pretty good at.