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wooferdog 07-03-2012 06:09 PM

Busted my sump
 
Anyone know what year oil pans will fit an '87?

Sebastionbear1 07-03-2012 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by wooferdog (Post 1174303)
Anyone know what year oil pans will fit an '87?

Still learning about the different year engines, but chances are they didn't change. Happy to be corrected :icon_fryingpan:

Now, for the more important question Woof,

How did you break it?

Cheers (well sort of), SB

wooferdog 07-03-2012 06:29 PM

Seb,

It was an innocent enough move.

I parked on the sidewalk in front of a store and upon leaving, hopped down a curb, bottomed out on one of the fins that protect the header pipes. I really had no idea that my entire crankcase was draining out in front of my rear wheel until I leaned over and dropped the clutch. I was on the ground in the blink of an eye. A little fairing rash i can live with, but the bike is dead in the water until I find another oil pan.

I know an'88 will fit

bicklebok 07-03-2012 06:46 PM

Glad youre ok. Hope you find another pan.

Sebastionbear1 07-03-2012 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by wooferdog (Post 1174308)
Seb,

It was an innocent enough move.

I parked on the sidewalk in front of a store and upon leaving, hopped down a curb, bottomed out on one of the fins that protect the header pipes. I really had no idea that my entire crankcase was draining out in front of my rear wheel until I leaned over and dropped the clutch. I was on the ground in the blink of an eye. A little fairing rash i can live with, but the bike is dead in the water until I find another oil pan.

I know an'88 will fit


Bummer Woof, but as stated in the mail above, glad you didnt hurt yourself.

Good luck with the hunt for the pan.

Cheers, SB

wooferdog 07-03-2012 06:56 PM

Thanks guys.

To add insult to injury, I just paid for my stick coils today

Indiana Hurricane 07-03-2012 07:56 PM

I would look on flebay and find someone parting out there's and send them a message. Wouldn't hurt to ask. Also how bad is it. could it be welded back

wooferdog 07-03-2012 08:07 PM

It's not bad ad the only current pan on ebay has the same repair. I'm leery though, If the repair is not sound and fails. It's sure disaster. I was lucky I was only in a parking lot.

Tough part about this search is it's a discontinued part. I've only found one new one for $112.00, IF, it's in stock. Anything used, I want unmolested if possible

pmcg 07-03-2012 08:10 PM

If a 95 will fit I'm your man. If you want it pm me your address and you can owe me a beer next time you're in NJ

Sebastionbear1 07-03-2012 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by pmcg (Post 1174334)
If a 95 will fit I'm your man. If you want it pm me your address and you can owe me a beer next time you're in NJ


Time to search part numbers Woof,

What a great forum - well done pcmg!

Cheers, SB

wooferdog 07-03-2012 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by pmcg (Post 1174334)
If a 95 will fit I'm your man. If you want it pm me your address and you can owe me a beer next time you're in NJ

I have my doubts it will, but if it does. Let's talk

Haven't heard from Sprock yet. He's gotta' have 15 or 16 of them laying around.

Back to Indy's comment. Yeah, I'll go searching, I've been specific parts searching before and have found the sellers that are parting whole bikes with the "ask if there's anything you need" caveat.

Part number search ( 11210-MM5-000 )shows '87'88 only

Sprock 07-03-2012 09:37 PM

Gimme me 15 mins I'll be baaaack :) to ya

And no I don't have any spares and part numbers for the sumps change
through the years but all the gaskets are the same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What does that tell ya !

Reckon you should take the good offer from PMCG Woofer
as by my figuring his 95 pan will most certainly fit your 87

As I said all the gaskets being sold for all three generations these days
carry the same part number meaning the bolt pattern is identical

Looking under my 87 and 90 and 93 I can see no differences

PMCG is a good man to offer it to you !

There is a 95 oil pan out on ebay for 65 buck approx and you can
toggle back and forth with the repaired 87/88 on there too to compare
visually - to me the only difference is the repair, dirt and age

wooferdog 07-03-2012 11:09 PM

Thanks for that info, Sprock. I have found a '90 pan. Here's the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tchlink:top:en


Here's the link to the patched '88 pan

1988 Honda Hurricane CBR1000 - Oil Pan and Screws | eBay

Sprock has got me on the scent.

Anyone else want to chime in on the comparison?

PMCG, Man, thank you so much for your offer, I truly appreciate it. Go and enjoy the 4th while I research the cross-application. We may be able to hook up on this. Thanks again

kiwi TK 07-04-2012 04:42 AM

Hey Dave, there are a couple of guys currently advertising on Trade Me (the NZ equivalent of EBay) that they are breaking 87/88's. If things don't work out up your way let me know and I'll chase them up for you.

Shipping to West Coast shouldn't be to scary, but I also realize that time is of the essence.

Cheers
TK

Sprock 07-04-2012 06:21 AM

Good deal - many is a part I got from Gus at Max as they are only
25 mins from here by bike - 45 by car :D



Originally Posted by wooferdog (Post 1174372)
Thanks for that info, Sprock. I have found a '90 pan. Here's the link

90 Honda CBR 1000 CBR1000 Engine Oil Pan 33G | eBay


Here's the link to the patched '88 pan

1988 Honda Hurricane CBR1000 - Oil Pan and Screws | eBay

Sprock has got me on the scent.

Anyone else want to chime in on the comparison?

PMCG, Man, thank you so much for your offer, I truly appreciate it. Go and enjoy the 4th while I research the cross-application. We may be able to hook up on this. Thanks again


wooferdog 07-05-2012 04:14 PM

I've decided to take PMCG up on his offer. Here's a link to a '95 pan on ebay. I can see no difference.

Can you?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oil-Pan-Cove...ssories&vxp=mt

Sprock 07-05-2012 04:54 PM

none !

except under all that grime you'll find a part number for the 95 which will be different
than the part number for your 87 - but other than that they are like twin sisters
everybody would be happy with one or the other LOL :D ;)

wooferdog 07-05-2012 05:38 PM

When I get it bolted up, I'll post it in the Alternative parts forum

...and thanks to PMCG (and everyone who chimed in here ), you're a lifesaver

Sprock 07-05-2012 06:31 PM

We'll have to wait and see as one of Shakey's mates said otherwise a few weeks ago
but - there was no further backup info on that thread or posts from back then.
It may have been just because the part numbers were not a match - !


So I'm very interested in this outcome !

wooferdog 07-12-2012 04:24 PM

PMCG's '95 pan arrived today. I'm still waiting on the gasket but will do a test fit tonight and post results

Sprock 07-12-2012 09:25 PM

fingers drumming - ever eager to hear of the result !

wooferdog 07-12-2012 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Sprock (Post 1176731)
fingers drumming - ever eager to hear of the result !

Identical in every way. Did a prelim post in alternative parts. I'll research all of the part numbers and post up this weekend. Pan gasket will be here next Tuesday. All will be fine then. Need this bolted up before I apply the stick coils.

Sebastionbear1 07-12-2012 11:05 PM

I'll bet you're as happy as a dog with two tails Woof! :icon_banana:

Good job and watch those gutters in future

Cheers, SB

pmcg 07-13-2012 12:20 AM

Good to hear. No more offroading!!!!!!

Sprock 07-13-2012 05:47 AM

HAH - I thought so - proves a fact I was pretty certain of from a few weeks back.

That's great news man.

kiwi TK 07-13-2012 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Sebastionbear (Post 1176767)
I'll bet you're as happy as a dog with two tails Woof! :icon_banana:
Cheers, SB

That's close to, but not quite the same as the expression we use in NZ.

Our one involves a dog with two Richards.

Sprock 07-13-2012 09:20 AM

Like - Nixon & Dixon :) ?

wooferdog 07-13-2012 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by pmcg (Post 1176779)
Good to hear. No more offroading!!!!!!

If i attempt that again, I'll look for the wheelchair access

Sebastionbear1 07-13-2012 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Sprock (Post 1176852)
Like - Nixon & Dixon :) ?


Beat me to it! :)

kiwi JK 07-15-2012 04:35 AM

Probably more like Whitington & Whitington

Bordo 07-20-2012 01:12 AM

I realise you have it sorted out now but here's one I found on fleabay just now.

HONDA CBR1000F SUMP - NEVER BEEN ON BIKE BUT NOT IN ORIGINAL PARTS BAG | eBay

wooferdog 07-20-2012 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bordo (Post 1178713)
I realise you have it sorted out now but here's one I found on fleabay just now.

HONDA CBR1000F SUMP - NEVER BEEN ON BIKE BUT NOT IN ORIGINAL PARTS BAG | eBay

Thanks for the heads up Bordo. I can tell you though, that pan will not fit my bike. Look at the inside pic. You'll see a round ring just to the right of the post. My pan does not have that. It has something to do with regulating the flow of return oil. All of the fiches that Sprock and me looked at indicate that that is a CB1000 pan, though somehow they ended up on CBR's

I hope Shakey doesn't see this. There will be controversy for sure

Sprock 07-24-2012 08:06 PM

Woof - is it all bolted up and running good ?

As for those CB 1000 oil pans - good candidates for a meeting with an angle grinder - I'd say they could be made to fit :)

wooferdog 07-24-2012 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Sprock (Post 1179848)
Woof - is it all bolted up and running good ?

As for those CB 1000 oil pans - good candidates for a meeting with an angle grinder - I'd say they could be made to fit :)


Oh yeah. Gasket showed up last Thursday. In the interim I did 'Bears coil how-to. Let me tell you she's running great. Man, what a difference.

As far as the CB1000 pans go. I think if you just remove the barrel shaped oil return pipe from an early model CBR, you can make that pan work. Or grind it down. Either/or



To me, that cast in well and that barrel shaped pipe seem to serve the same function. That would be to regulate flow of return oil into the sump.

P.S. I used the Permatex #1 to seal it up. In the past, I would have used the old-school Indian Head Shellac for this job

Sprock 07-25-2012 10:16 AM

Good stuff that Permatex #1 - great to hear all worked out well.

Hueristic 07-25-2012 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sprock (Post 1179942)
Good stuff that Permatex #1 - great to hear all worked out well.

I Love the Ultra Copper! I swear by it. :D

Sprock 07-25-2012 08:09 PM

not for float bowls t'aint - no rtv silicone can handle sustained exposure the gasoline in the long term.

Ultra Copper will work for oil pans tho' too

Hueristic 07-25-2012 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Sprock (Post 1180080)
not for float bowls t'aint - no rtv silicone can handle sustained exposure the gasoline in the long term.

Ultra Copper will work for oil pans tho' too

Never use silicon in a carb (don't think i got the nutz). :D

Just got the Oil Pan for the 350 today and yup Ulta copper, who needs gaskets! UPS guy looked at the Jag and Beemer and said W0w your doing something right, Lol little does he know I'm poor and can only own them cause I do all the work! Hah but it made me feel good. :D

Ohh just reread ur post (my ultra copper comment on your permatex was cause of the company not the application).

Sprock 07-26-2012 08:38 AM

:D oh I know you got the nutz - coz nobody has an engine hoist like yours - lol

Hueristic 07-26-2012 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Sprock (Post 1180155)
:D oh I know you got the nutz - coz nobody has an engine hoist like yours - lol

Ohh shoot(filter) you got me there! :icon_teeth:


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