Conrice's 954 FIGHTER build thread
#392
Looking forward to seeing your hard work pay off. Keep on truckin and don't forget about the truck bed liner like what I used. One year later and not even a problem. I also did not do a lot of prep work. I cleaned everything real good with paint prep, laid down a few coats of etching primer, then another cleaning with paint prep, wiped everything down real good with a tack cloth, and then 2-3 coats of the rattle can bed liner.
Total cost was about $30 and I have not gotten a scratch or chip at all and if I do I can just hit it with a small coat and it will blend in easier than regular paint. It does have a slight texture to it though. I powder coated everything else besides the frame, sub frame, swing arm, and lower bracket. Got a good deal at $60 for everything else.
Total cost was about $30 and I have not gotten a scratch or chip at all and if I do I can just hit it with a small coat and it will blend in easier than regular paint. It does have a slight texture to it though. I powder coated everything else besides the frame, sub frame, swing arm, and lower bracket. Got a good deal at $60 for everything else.
#393
This bike is refusing to be built...
So, electronically, everything is working. All of the systems (fuel and ignition) are operating, but it won't run because the ignition rotor that sits on the exhaust cam, is off - way off - almost 180°...
So I have to have a machine shop make a new rotor, which will cost almost a whole day's worth of labor for them to do it correctly...
Ugh.... SMH...
I can't stress this enough, but if you guys ever think about converting over to different electronics, do the 04-07 1000rr's.... Its plug-n-play by comparison...
So, electronically, everything is working. All of the systems (fuel and ignition) are operating, but it won't run because the ignition rotor that sits on the exhaust cam, is off - way off - almost 180°...
So I have to have a machine shop make a new rotor, which will cost almost a whole day's worth of labor for them to do it correctly...
Ugh.... SMH...
I can't stress this enough, but if you guys ever think about converting over to different electronics, do the 04-07 1000rr's.... Its plug-n-play by comparison...
#394
How's about bringing this thread alive.
1st, which do you prefer? (And look past the mess that is my garage presently)
1)
OR
2)
Or, how about both? With a dedicated m/c for each set up, I can change it out in about 20 minutes. It has the same ride height with using two different sets of triangles.
And if you were looking closely, I've changed forks.... The '12 1000rr forks were too short, I had no adjustment with them, and a big enough bump would have put my front wheel into my radiator....
So its zx14 forks, rims, rotors, etc. And the other benefit to using those forks is that I can run Sumitomo brakes, which I've always liked... Rear is a zx14 rim, 954 arm. I'm having a rotor cut for the wheel as the Kawi uses a 250mm rotor, and the CBR is set up for a 220mm one (and it doesn't bolt up).
As for what's stalled this bike, I'll tell you. Relying on other people, who are doing your work as a side job which means it always takes a back seat to their primary jobs.
I found out that I was not getting a signal from the Ducati sensor I was using as a Cam Position sensor... It was only putting out 2-3 V and the service limit for the ECU was 4.75V... I decided that it was best to just use the 1000rr sensor. In doing so, it opened up a spot in the cast head.
My welder was going to do this job for me while I was out of town. When I got back into town, I found out that he had moved away - with the head, sensor, cams, etc that I was going to use....
So, I'm still waiting on him to send it back to me... He assures me tomorrow is the day he's sending it, but I'm not holding my breath.... I have a lead on a guy in town who said he'd do the work I need (I know, I know...what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing expecting different results...) so we'll see how quickly it gets done...
1st, which do you prefer? (And look past the mess that is my garage presently)
1)
OR
2)
Or, how about both? With a dedicated m/c for each set up, I can change it out in about 20 minutes. It has the same ride height with using two different sets of triangles.
And if you were looking closely, I've changed forks.... The '12 1000rr forks were too short, I had no adjustment with them, and a big enough bump would have put my front wheel into my radiator....
So its zx14 forks, rims, rotors, etc. And the other benefit to using those forks is that I can run Sumitomo brakes, which I've always liked... Rear is a zx14 rim, 954 arm. I'm having a rotor cut for the wheel as the Kawi uses a 250mm rotor, and the CBR is set up for a 220mm one (and it doesn't bolt up).
As for what's stalled this bike, I'll tell you. Relying on other people, who are doing your work as a side job which means it always takes a back seat to their primary jobs.
I found out that I was not getting a signal from the Ducati sensor I was using as a Cam Position sensor... It was only putting out 2-3 V and the service limit for the ECU was 4.75V... I decided that it was best to just use the 1000rr sensor. In doing so, it opened up a spot in the cast head.
My welder was going to do this job for me while I was out of town. When I got back into town, I found out that he had moved away - with the head, sensor, cams, etc that I was going to use....
So, I'm still waiting on him to send it back to me... He assures me tomorrow is the day he's sending it, but I'm not holding my breath.... I have a lead on a guy in town who said he'd do the work I need (I know, I know...what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing expecting different results...) so we'll see how quickly it gets done...
#395
Heyy we got a live one here!
Oh I know exactly what you mean about that relying on others thing, I once had a 125cc frame to be welded in one shop and the guy kept telling me he`d get to it until I once asked him has he even noticed that I`ve taken the frame away from under the shelf it was laying in something like five months ago?
Seeing how much time and effort you`ve put on that SSSA it would be a crying shame to see you back out of it now is my opinion...
Love those beefy triples! And so jealous about that lift, been meaning to buy one for aeons but something always comes between...
Oh I know exactly what you mean about that relying on others thing, I once had a 125cc frame to be welded in one shop and the guy kept telling me he`d get to it until I once asked him has he even noticed that I`ve taken the frame away from under the shelf it was laying in something like five months ago?
Seeing how much time and effort you`ve put on that SSSA it would be a crying shame to see you back out of it now is my opinion...
Love those beefy triples! And so jealous about that lift, been meaning to buy one for aeons but something always comes between...
#396
#397
I actually think I like the 954 arm with the zx14 rim better.... and I'm almost positive it'll handle better, ride better, and be quicker. I could feel the difference pushing it around in the garage....
But I like both. And I've already swapped back and forth a few times... It takes a solid 25 mins., but that's it. If I get a dedicated master cylinder for each set up (which cost all of $15 on fleabay), I could easily ride whichever setup I was in the mood for. I mess around and switch gearing too often to really care about excessive chain wear from different sprockets. I have 2 520 chains hanging around, so why not have my cake and eat it too.
Plus, you two especially know how I tend to change things, just for the hell of it. Being able to be SSSA one week, and DSSA the next fits my personality.
Car rim - that's been done before.
A rim swap - that's been done before.
Being able to decide between SSSA and DSSA with less than 30min of work, thats new. Like I said, ride height, wheel base, etc essentially doesn't change...
But I like both. And I've already swapped back and forth a few times... It takes a solid 25 mins., but that's it. If I get a dedicated master cylinder for each set up (which cost all of $15 on fleabay), I could easily ride whichever setup I was in the mood for. I mess around and switch gearing too often to really care about excessive chain wear from different sprockets. I have 2 520 chains hanging around, so why not have my cake and eat it too.
Plus, you two especially know how I tend to change things, just for the hell of it. Being able to be SSSA one week, and DSSA the next fits my personality.
Car rim - that's been done before.
A rim swap - that's been done before.
Being able to decide between SSSA and DSSA with less than 30min of work, thats new. Like I said, ride height, wheel base, etc essentially doesn't change...
Last edited by Conrice; 10-12-2015 at 08:22 PM.
#398
I will, almost always, lobby for a SSSA. I've run my brake line thru it, I plan to cut down the fender a bit, I'm running without a chain guard... I love minimalism. The bit of performance I would get from a DSSA and slightly lighter wheel would probably be totally lost on me. If I were running a car wheel?... For your bike I think both look good. I'm not a fan of running overly wide wheels on bikes tho and suspect I'd enjoy a lighter dssa/wheel combo over the wide heavy wheel and wider heavier rubber. Is that ds wheel forged? Migrating to forged wheels f/r might be totally worth dropping the aesthetics of a sssa
#399
Not forged - they're on the heavier side for O.E. rims, (still a ton lighter than the SSSA), but I just like the look. For some reason, and I cringe when I say it, it looks more purposeful...
It also looks less flashy, which I like, too.
On another note - my head is getting mailed back to me. He sent it out yesterday. Whew...
It also looks less flashy, which I like, too.
On another note - my head is getting mailed back to me. He sent it out yesterday. Whew...