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Ruftags
02-05-2008, 05:25 AM
what procedure due you guys use to change brake fluid. I have almost 12k on bike and was gonna do it this winter.

MC_spirited
02-05-2008, 05:40 AM
It all depends how you want to do it. I would recommend a Vacuum pump as opposed to the old school method. Put the vacuum system on the bleeder valve and pull a vacuum, make sure that before you get all the fluid out of the reservoir, you stop to add more fluid to keep the chances of air bubbles down. Pay attention to how much you put in and comes out of the system, IF there is a quality difference watch for clean fluid to come out of the bleeder. Once the old fluid has been cycled out top up and double/ triple check for bubbles and proper lever feel.

1. Attach vacuum pump to bleeder nozzle.
2. Take reservoir cap off.
3. Pull a vacuum.
4. Open bleeder
5. Watch fluid level in reservoir to make sure it never gets empty enough to allow air bubbles.
6.Add more fluid, bleed more out
7.When old fluid has been cycled out, top up and bleed again, making sure you have proper lever feel.


Ive never bled a Dual front caliper system. Id imagine that you can do it the same, you just need extra hose and a T fitting to simultaneously bleed both front brakes. A friend who may or may not have done this before would probably be a bit of help if you are not totally comfortable.

ampfp
02-05-2008, 10:00 AM
Getting a vacuum pump will help make it easier, I just did it without, by pumping the lever i.e.
Replacing fluid:
* attach hose to bleed valve and put it in a bottle.
* open bleed valve
* open reservoir cap
* pump brake lever to drain... until reservoir level is low but not empty
* fill fluid
* pump to drain... repeat until fluid is all new color and clear

Bleeding (getting rid of bubbles):
* open bleed valve, push in brake lever
* clear fluid with maybe a few bubbles will come out the bleed tube
* close bleed valve while lever is in, then release lever
* if no bubbles + brake feel is tight, close the reservoir and you're good to go, otherwise repeat this

* Read the service manual before doing this, might give you extra details
* For front calipers get a t-joint attachment. make sure you watch for bubbles in both bleed valves. If there are a lot you could bleed both separately, bleeding the bottom one first (tilt of bike) and then top (keep both attached).
* It can be hard to get the tubes onto the valves. I used a nose plier to enlarge the end of the tube before I could put it on the valve.

Tahoe SC
02-05-2008, 10:29 AM
wow...i've never thought of using a T to split the line to the vacuum...i just do one side at a time...great advice!

amnesia
02-05-2008, 10:30 AM
Why would you want to change it at 12K. I'm sure it's fine. Even the dealers don't suggest changing it that soon (and we all know if there was any excuse, they would do it)

charlos
02-05-2008, 10:52 AM
brake fluid should be changed on a time basis, not a mileage basis. brake fluid is hydrophilic, so it absorbs ambient moisture in the air. as it absorbs the moisture, its boiling point lowers such that it becomes easier to boil the fluid at lower temperatures, leading to a spongy brake lever and decreased braking ability.

12,000 miles in 6 months? nah don't need new fluid. 12,000 miles in 3 years with no fluid change? DO IT.

FWIW, i change my brake fluid every few months or so, but this is on a track bike where the brakes and fluid see high temps.

Ruftags
02-05-2008, 11:05 AM
Thanks for the response I ride an 02 and know that it has never been changed so thats why I was gonna do it. Does thehand pump units you find at auto zone and the like work well.

charlos
02-05-2008, 11:33 AM
oh btw, i got a set of speedbleeders and they're marvelous. takes a 20-30 min job and turns it into a 5 minute job.

TBFGhost
02-05-2008, 04:28 PM
Changing out your old brake fluid does WONDERS for brake feel...and yes, if you look in your manual, it does tell you to swap it out every now and then. I have personally done and it I will never go more then a year and half now without new brake fluid.

white99gt
02-06-2008, 10:39 AM
ORIGINAL: charlos

oh btw, i got a set of speedbleeders and they're marvelous. takes a 20-30 min job and turns it into a 5 minute job.





whats the part number for the speed bleeders?

Ruftags
02-06-2008, 11:01 AM
Ya what are speed bleeders?

white99gt
02-06-2008, 11:26 AM
ORIGINAL: Ruftags

Ya what are speed bleeders?


The have a check ball in them ,that allows the fluid to leave but seals when pressure is released .AKA it doesnt allow air into the system.

http://www.speedbleeder.com/feature.htm

http://www.speedbleeder.com/

charlos
02-06-2008, 12:11 PM
ORIGINAL: white99gt

ORIGINAL: charlos

oh btw, i got a set of speedbleeders and they're marvelous. takes a 20-30 min job and turns it into a 5 minute job.





whats the part number for the speed bleeders?




Goodridge's Speed bleeder part # for hondas is SB8125. i'm sure its the same as the one on that website, as i think the #'s refer to diameter and thread pitch.

Tahoe SC
02-06-2008, 12:11 PM
i love speedbleeders and mity vac...but...i would rather go with mity vac...removes the need for speedbleeders...
what do i have on my bike? speedbleeders...muaahhahaha...why mity vac? well...speed bleeders need pressure to work...so if you're swapping lines...there's no pressure, they won't work...

Jump1979man
02-06-2008, 02:19 PM
ORIGINAL: white99gt

ORIGINAL: Ruftags

Ya what are speed bleeders?


The have a check ball in them ,that allows the fluid to leave but seals when pressure is released .AKA it doesnt allow air into the system.

http://www.speedbleeder.com/feature.htm

http://www.speedbleeder.com/




Just bought three! Hopefully they work.

clegane
02-12-2008, 10:25 AM
Hey Jump1979man, any update on your success with these? Thinking about getting myself some...

Did you get three of the SB8125Ls?

Jaybird180
02-12-2008, 11:05 PM
Like Tahoe said, I have speedbleeders and a mity vac. I have some other contraption too, but it's late and my brain ain't working right. I use the speedbleeders with the hose from one of my gadgets. I used the mity vac when I changed the lines and probably wouldn't have been able to complete the job without. WORD OF ADVICE when working with brake fluid:Get a box of latex gloves and wear them when working with the stuff. I now wear my rubbers when working on anything with the bike. Makes cleanup easier and I don't have to worry about getting any fluids on my skin.

G3NESYS
02-13-2008, 03:21 PM
ORIGINAL: Jaybird180

Like Tahoe said, I have speedbleeders and a mity vac. I have some other contraption too, but it's late and my brain ain't working right. I use the speedbleeders with the hose from one of my gadgets. I used the mity vac when I changed the lines and probably wouldn't have been able to complete the job without. WORD OF ADVICE when working with brake fluid:Get a box of latex gloves and wear them when working with the stuff. I now wear my rubbers when working on anything with the bike. Makes cleanup easier and I don't have to worry about getting any fluids on my skin.


haha... yep wearing rubbers def. keeps you from gettin those fluids on ur skin... lol