So I get off work where I am a bicycle mechanic at roughly 10pm in tempe, az. I know most of you guys are out in the midwest, or any other part of the world with seasons and Im already seeing posts from guys having to garage their babies. It was a cool 69 degrees when I got off work and I was itching to get on my 98 f3 all shift. I've only had it a week and it is also my first bike, so I'm sure anyone can relate to the giddiness I currently suffer from. But back to the story, if any of you know arizona, phoenix and its surroundings cities mostly, you know its a giant grid, stretches in all direction, but littered with intersections that equate to a game of russian roullete during any traffic hour on a bike. But after 10pm tempe seems to quiet down and the main roads have green light after green light. so I come out of work and fly down a road the the street that takes me to my place about 2 miles away. Do the good ole head swivel and check for any lightbars or police looking vehicles and open her up. get to a light 1/2 mile down the road and realize I'm the only one on this usually busy street at the moment, it was a gift from god i figured for all my "hard" work that evening. Light goes green, pull a nice little wheelie, set her down and fly up to about 90 in no time flat. unfortunately theres a school zone near my place so I back down to the speed limit and turn right into my neighborhood. I turn around and theres a lightless shadow that instantly turns my pants brown. Lightbar on a 07 charger. (yes the cops here have chargers) i dont know where he came from but I figured i was done for, permit was gonna get revoked and a huge ticket was gonna also sit on my wallet. I pull over, he does the same,even tho he hadn't stopped me. lights go on an i gulp. I figured maybe a sign of good faith might get me off the hook here. Officer gets out of the car,I give the officer my permit papers and he checks them out. without a skip, the aussie born officer says, 1 week in and you're workin that bike pretty decent, I run an F3 myself! So we shoot the **** about bikes for a while, he gives me a warning and asks me to be a good little rider from here on out. I got home and woke my roomies up just to tell someone my good fortunes!

Nice... you got lucky!!!!

It pays to be nice when you make a mistake.

you were def. fortunate , glad your enjoying the bike and be careful

So you can ride alone with only a permit there? Here and everywhere else I know you gotta havesomeone 21+ and MC endorsed with you.

^by "with you" do you mean on the back? if so thats the worst law i have ever heard of.

we have the same law here in texas .. and know there just has to be someone 21+ riding on there bike around you

ORIGINAL: Gville George

^by "with you" do you mean on the back? if so thats the worst law i have ever heard of.



Well I'm sure thats acceptable too but seeing how I'm not a flaming fruitcake pole smoker, I meant on another bike riding beside you. Which is a terrible law because all of my friends ride so aggressively that I would have been much better off trying to learn on my own.

That is wierd that they would have you ride with a more experienced rider to start off. Chances are you would push yourself above your limits with more experienced riders just to keep up. In IN, you have to wear a helmet, "there is no helmet law if you have your endorsement," no passangers, and hasto be day lightif you have a permit.

ORIGINAL: Rubicon on 38s

So you can ride alone with only a permit there? Here and everywhere else I know you gotta havesomeone 21+ and MC endorsed with you.


here in nc you can also ride alone with permit only restriction is no passengers,,permit good for 18 months

Here in nc if you get your permit you just can't have someone on the back.

NH says one permit in per lifetime, good for 30 days, no passengers, no riding at night, no out-of-state riding, helmet optional ("Live Free or Die" bishes!)....FWIW, I always wear my lid...too scared not to.

you lucked out man. really lucked out..

In PA you have to have your permit until your 18, before 18 you have to have someone ride with you(on another bike), no passenger, and cant ride at night. After 18 you can ride by yourself and can get your license.

By the way you got real lucky. Be careful

in CA with a permit you can ride your bike by yourself just you can't ride on the freeway or at night untill you get your licence. however when i had my permit those rules didn't last to long with me:D

Do the good ole head swivel and check for any lightbars or police looking vehicles and open her up



hahaha thats funny man sounds like a lotta people i know

Well I'm sure thats acceptable too but seeing how I'm not a flaming fruitcake pole smoker, I meant on another bike riding beside you. Which is a terrible law because all of my friends ride so aggressively that I would have been much better off trying to learn on my own.

I'm not a flaming fruitcake pole smoker...just have to say got a kick outta that one

So, you're one week into riding and you're going 90 and pulling wheelies? Ok, terrific...

+1 Aken ^^^^ And to the guys talking about riding on a permit....The reason you ride next to a more experienced is because they were a noob at one time too, they should have to the intelligence to slow down for you and understand you're learning. Give you pointers and teach you as you go. It sounds like someone was saying you should go out with new riders so they don't push you, instead lets let the blind lead the blind. Someone is destin to get hurt on that ride. And if you're riding with you're "friends" and they're not slowing down to help you learn, I wouldn't call them "friends" at all. I ride like a bat out of hell when i'm by myself and with other experienced riders but if i'm going out with someone learning, I slow down. I've been down a few times and I would rather my "friends" learn from my mistakes and know that a bike is something that needs to be respected. That's why you ride next to an experienced rider like someone over 21 with a MC endoresment as it's law in most states.

oh and to the origional poster, lol. I've had the same thing before and most likely the cop being a rider himself knew that you could have taken off and respected the fact that you stopped. That's what the cop told me. I was tucked for about a mile cause it was cold out and my visor was up cause it was covered with bugs (I went through a cloud of nats) and when I sat up to check my mirrror-lights. So I pulled over and he was a rider as well, we shot the **** for a bit and he let me go.

i hate those carger cop cars they have a super low profile light bar hard to see

holy crap the laws out there are retarded!! in cali its just no night/passengers/or freeway when it comes to permits. why the hell would they make you ride with sum1 21+ ??